well, sorry for participating in the whole IMO deal.I just don't want some newbie to be driven off a language because teddy deems it "unaccessible." I've just coded a tiney chat server in python within my first two hours of playing with it; it's not a hard language to learn. EdSharp makes life a lot more easier, though. speaking of: I use alt+shift+i to turn on indentation announcement, but that seems to change when I exit, can I make that perminent?
Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
thank you Jamal for returning to the factual original topic of this line, the poor dude may have already stopped reading it due to the mass of IMO's stuff that was being thrown about out here, *sigh*talk to you later, inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksFor whatever it's worth, my present perspective on these topics is as follows. If a new programmer wants to maximize the chance of getting paid employment, I suggest lerning Java, C#, or PHP. If the primary interest is developing web sites, I recommend PHP. If Windows desktop applications, I recommend either C# or Visual Basic .NET, depending on personal preference about syntax. If cross-platform development is the highest priority, I recommend Python. Regarding Python, I think its indentation requirement is unfriendly to blind programmers, particularly speech-without-braille users. Other aspects of a language should also be considered, however, in judging how friendly a language is. Clean syntax with a minimum of punctuation symbols often makes a language more friendly to beginners. In the languages I have mention so far, Python and Visual Basic are the friendliest in that respect. Case sensitivity also makes a difference to friendliness. Visual Basic is the friendliest in that respect, since the other languages mentioned are case sensitive. An interactive environment for testing small pieces of code is another aspect of friendliness. Python is the best of the languages mentioned in that respect. For anyone interested in a research project, I think the topic of what language is easiest for a beginning blind programmer is worth investigating. Without empirical evidence, it is difficult to judge howto weigh the different factors that affect the friendliness of a language.Let me encourage any student or professional researchers on this list to consider designing a study that may shed more light on this. Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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