I didn't find any access issues for perl when I write the code with TextPad. As I said, yes, if I would be forced to use python or any other language, I will need to pass over the unfriendliness of each one, but even then, I wouldn't say that they are very friendly just because I will be got used to use them. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:09 AM Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > No my correct answer is all programming languages have access issues. > Python has one its spacing. It's easy to learn to overcome that problem > much easier than learning a big IDE like visual studio and definitely easier > than using c++ builder's IDE. Heck for that matter its easier than learning > to stick all your variables in one spot on pascal and c for that matter. I > actually like Python now cause I gave it a chance maybe someday you will be > forced to and you will actually have to suck eggs and write the list and say > you have gave it a try. > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:50 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > Yes of course and I know that, but what I wanted to show was that there is > not only a single way, and that not all the blind programmers have the same > needs, and what some programmers say that would be considered a good > practice just because it fits to their needs. > > So your correct answer would have been that yes, python is less friendly for > > the blind, but because the sighted programmers like it because it offer > visual aids and some specific features they like, and maybe because in some > parts of the world there is a demand for python programmers, we, the blind > programmers must make the efforts and accept to use some workarounds in > order to have a better chance of finding work. > > That would have been more correct, so those who know that they don't care > about the sighted programmers, or know that in their country there is no a > big demand for python, would understand better for which situations is > python good for the blind. > > Octavian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:07 PM > Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > >> >> >> See again this is a Teddy problem not a real problem. You are arguing >> because you don't work with other people. In the real world those of us >> who >> really code for a living must work with other coders. If you code to make >> money you have to code with other people because no matter how much I wish >> it was so to really compete you must work in teams. You are working as >> one >> person so any language will do you so use what you like best and everyone >> else be damned but don't tell us what is best because you don't have to >> collaborate with other people which changes the entire game. >> >> Ken >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian >> Rasnita >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:24 AM >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks >> >> Yes I know, but the first thing I do after I install TextPad is to disable >> the indentation, because I use TextPad for other things than programming, >> and it wouldn't be nice to see that it added a certain number of spaces in >> some other documents. >> >> And even when programming, it is not nice to press home then to press the >> right arrow for more times in order to reach at the beginning of the text >> from the current line. And it is also not nice to press home and the >> editor >> to put the cursor there implicitely, without letting you know that on that >> line there are some more spaces before the text. >> >> Of course I can find if there are more spaces, but that would require more >> time for pressing different hotkeys or setting Jaws to speak the >> indentation >> >> level, but why doing this? >> Just for making the code more accessible for the sighted when no sighted >> person works with my code? >> >> Octavian >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:31 AM >> Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks >> >> >>> >>> Text pad has everything you need it has keep line indentation and show >>> spaces. >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian >>> Rasnita >>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:32 PM >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks >>> >>> Well, this might be also easy to do if you use a specially created editor >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind