I can jump from beginning of block to end fine as well with either ed sharp or my normal editor boxer. It's all what you know. I find pearls $$$$$$ form of variables annoying and ugly and hard to read but that's just me. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:00 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks Well, I never found that a language has too much punctuation. I prefer to use more strange variables like $! or $| than use more named methods, because english is not my native language, and I use to forget the exact syntax, while those chars are easier to remember and shorter to write. And I also like to use braces because I can jump easier from the beginning of the block to the end of the block, or to select that block. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > No in fact I find many of the languages use to much punctuation. I don't' > mean that python is better but I do mean it has some very nice features. > I > used to think like you do but now that AI have used the language heavily > since September I barely even think of having to indent. I just do it by > default. > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian > Rasnita > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:35 AM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > If python wouldn't have this issue of indentation, it wouldn't need > workarounds for making it a little bit friendlier. > So I don't understand what you don't like when I said that python is less > friendly for the blind than other languages. > > This doesn't mean that python can't be used by a blind programmer, but > what > I said was that other languages are more friendly. Don't you agree that > they > > are more friendly than python? > > But by the way, why would be python very useful? > I would really like to hear that. I mean, what it would be useful to, not > the fact that it has a strong OOP support. > > Octavian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > >> Octavian Rasnita wrote: >> "Well, I would also like to know what Jamal thinks about the friendlyness >> of Python" >> Given his additions of Py-Dent and Py-Brace to EdSharp, I think it's >> fairly evident that Jamal considers Python a very viable choice, although >> my personal preference is just to manage the indentation raw. Really, >> Teddy, you're closing yourself off from a very useful language if you let >> some of these extremely semantic sticking points get in the way. >> >> JW >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind