Indeed, *grin*, but tis still lisp good chap, tis still lisp. Point taken however. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephen S. Disbrow Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:45 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks Sina, I know it's lisp, but I'm learning Common List not my Grandfathers lisp. Steve D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:20 AM Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > The language is lisp! > > Sorry, couldn't resist. > > Going back to my hole now. > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:14 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > > Grin I love Clisp I especially love putting in 500 ('s and 500 )'s just to > print hello world. But seriously Clisp is an awesome language for so many > things. > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephen S. > Disbrow > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:02 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > Hi, > This discussion is getting crazy. Each and everyone of us love certain > languages, and we'll do whatever it takes to use them. I'm having problems > with clisp, but I like it so much I'm willing to deal with those issues. > Please just let everyone have their opinions without criticising them in a > non constructive manner.. > > Happy Holidays > > Steve D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:03 AM > Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks > > >>I think we're fighting a lost cause. teddy is like teaching an old dog >>tricks. He is either jusg going to sit here and argue for no apparent >>reason, or we can let him keep his beliefs, as his messages seem to be a >>repete of the last one. He isn't hurting anyone but himself in his attempt >>to close off everything but a few languages. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield >> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> web: tysdomain-com >> Visit for quality software and web design. >> skype: st8amnd2005 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:35 AM >> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks >> >> >>> If python wouldn't have this issue of indentation, it wouldn't need >>> workarounds for making it a little bit friendlier. >>> So I don't understand what you don't like when I said that python is >>> less > >>> friendly for the blind than other languages. >>> >>> This doesn't mean that python can't be used by a blind programmer, but >>> what I said was that other languages are more friendly. Don't you agree >>> that they are more friendly than python? >>> >>> But by the way, why would be python very useful? >>> I would really like to hear that. I mean, what it would be useful to, >>> not > >>> the fact that it has a strong OOP support. >>> >>> Octavian >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 10:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks >>> >>> >>>> Octavian Rasnita wrote: >>>> "Well, I would also like to know what Jamal thinks about the >>>> friendlyness of Python" >>>> Given his additions of Py-Dent and Py-Brace to EdSharp, I think it's >>>> fairly evident that Jamal considers Python a very viable choice, >>>> although my personal preference is just to manage the indentation raw. >>>> Really, Teddy, you're closing yourself off from a very useful language >>>> if you let some of these extremely semantic sticking points get in the >>>> way. >>>> >>>> JW >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind