Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
- From: Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:16:26 -0700
Have u tried \ (backslash) followed by the ascii code?
On 10/2/09, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm trying to remember something I can't dredge up. There used to be some
> sort of special syntax you had to use to help JAWS work with dictionary
> files when it had trouble dealing with punctuation. You had to open the
> dictionary file in a text editor and use different delimiters. That's all I
> can remember right now. Maybe you would get lucky, open up the file, and it
> would have comments that explain the syntax they use.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:05 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
>
> Alex,
>
> This is the type of thing we do in Sodbeans. For a given programming
> language, we create a "mapping" between what the syntax in the language is
> and what the semantics of the language is. Then, depending on context, we
> present the semantics cues instead of the raw syntax. Now, if you have a
> syntax error, obviously you need the raw characters, so you can get that
> too, but it's funny that you mention this, as it's exactly what we're doing.
>
> And we ran a study comparing various cue architectures (e.g., syntax,
> semantics). It isn't conclusive on this issue, but I think I can argue with
> a certain degree of confidence that this idea actually does speed up working
> with source code for the blind.
>
> So, I heartily approve this message!
>
> Stefik
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> I tried this earlier today, and it did nothing! I think maybe it is
> the string being only punctuation that is throwing it off. I will keep
> playing with it, though.
>
>
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf"
> <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:30 PM
>
> Subject: Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
>
>
>
>
> ah, smile ahead of me by a mile already!
>
> of course its Jamal, what did I expect, lol!
>
> elf
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> for blind computer users and programmers
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Homme, James"
> <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:14 AM
> Subject: RE: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm not sure how many JAWS versions this goes back, but the
> dictionary manager was really beefed up to include all kinds of neet stuff
> like playing sounds, speaking strings with different voices, and so on. You
> could start working on a personal dictionary file for EdSharp that would do
> this kind of thing for you. I was just reading the dictionary manager help
> for the new JAWS 11. It says you can use different synthesizers and voices
> to speak things, play sounds for strings, speak and play sounds for strings
> at the same time, and more. Just go into the dictionary manager and press F1
> to get into the documentation and check it out. I think you'll be able to
> solve your issue this way.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:13 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
>
> interesting idea, I know it could be done in jaws, and
> probably window eyes,
> but the others I have no clue if it could be done, Jamal, if
> you decide to
> add this, you might want to give it the option to use one of
> a set of very
> short sounds for those readers that don't have multi voice
> output abilities,
> smile.
>
> take care,
> elf
> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
> for blind computer users and programmers
> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
> "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
> www.alacorncomputer.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Blind Programming List"
> <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:07 AM
> Subject: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was thinking that it might be good to have an
> option to define certain
> character sequences to be spoken differently. For
> example, to be able to
> define == (two equals signs) to be spoken as
> "equals", but in the tutor
> message voice instead of the regular voice. This
> would help a lot when
> looking through code to see if you forgot an equals
> sign in an if
> statement or for loop; if you do not hear "equals"
> in the tutor voice,
> then there is only one equals sign there. Similar to
> this would be ++
> (plus plus), -- (dash dash), and any other sequence
> you want to define.
> What do people think?
>
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
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