Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:09:38 -0400
I think it would. When you try to listen to
if(a=b)==(c=d)==5){
it gets hard to track all the equals signs, to say nothing of when jaws tries
to use intonation to indicate an exclamation point instead of speaking it. Too
bad the dictionary thing is not working, and the Netbeans project sounds great!
Have a great day,
Alex
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----- Original Message -----
From: Andreas Stefik
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
Alex,
This is the type of thing we do in Sodbeans. For a given programming
language, we create a "mapping" between what the syntax in the language is and
what the semantics of the language is. Then, depending on context, we present
the semantics cues instead of the raw syntax. Now, if you have a syntax error,
obviously you need the raw characters, so you can get that too, but it's funny
that you mention this, as it's exactly what we're doing.
And we ran a study comparing various cue architectures (e.g., syntax,
semantics). It isn't conclusive on this issue, but I think I can argue with a
certain degree of confidence that this idea actually does speed up working with
source code for the blind.
So, I heartily approve this message!
Stefik
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I tried this earlier today, and it did nothing! I think maybe it is the
string being only punctuation that is throwing it off. I will keep playing with
it, though.
Have a great day,
Alex
New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
ah, smile ahead of me by a mile already!
of course its Jamal, what did I expect, lol!
elf
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Homme, James"
<james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:14 AM
Subject: RE: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
Hi,
I'm not sure how many JAWS versions this goes back, but the dictionary
manager was really beefed up to include all kinds of neet stuff like playing
sounds, speaking strings with different voices, and so on. You could start
working on a personal dictionary file for EdSharp that would do this kind of
thing for you. I was just reading the dictionary manager help for the new JAWS
11. It says you can use different synthesizers and voices to speak things, play
sounds for strings, speak and play sounds for strings at the same time, and
more. Just go into the dictionary manager and press F1 to get into the
documentation and check it out. I think you'll be able to solve your issue this
way.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:13 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
interesting idea, I know it could be done in jaws, and probably window
eyes,
but the others I have no clue if it could be done, Jamal, if you decide to
add this, you might want to give it the option to use one of a set of very
short sounds for those readers that don't have multi voice output
abilities,
smile.
take care,
elf
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Blind Programming List" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: edsharp and screen readers: suggestion
Hi all,
I was thinking that it might be good to have an option to define certain
character sequences to be spoken differently. For example, to be able to
define == (two equals signs) to be spoken as "equals", but in the tutor
message voice instead of the regular voice. This would help a lot when
looking through code to see if you forgot an equals sign in an if
statement or for loop; if you do not hear "equals" in the tutor voice,
then there is only one equals sign there. Similar to this would be ++
(plus plus), -- (dash dash), and any other sequence you want to define.
What do people think?
Have a great day,
Alex
New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
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