I suggest you test with the jaws 9 beta and if you find the problem their here is what Sina and I do and we get pretty good results. We write the very simplest C# or VB code to demonstrate the problem in this case write a simple dialog based app to show the one control and the problem you are having. From there you send it to the Jaws beta team. Now I will point out though that if you are not setting the accessible name and description and roll and its not correct then Jaws might not be seeing it correct. So I would check the control with the home row and then maybe even try using it with MSAA turned on for the control if it works that way great. If not Make the simple program to send to the team. They have actually made changes for us to fix problems and they need to be given simple examples so they can get it fixed. Ken _____ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:06 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: creating an alarm clock in mfc Tested with 8.0.2173 and all versions of jaws 9.0 beta... It worked just fine with any jaws version before 8.0.1*. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:52 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: creating an alarm clock in mfc Um what version of Jaws do you have? Ken _____ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:46 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: creating an alarm clock in mfc Ill take a look at the link... If output of .net is fully accessible, is there a way to make some of the inaccessible controls better? I know the menuStrip and MenuItems need work but what about the DateTimePicker? When I arrow up and down in it, jaws wont say anything. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:19 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: creating an alarm clock in mfc As Inthane has already replied the .net languages are all accessible and so are their outputs. I have wrote a lot of GUI code in C# and had no problems. You are correct in saying you can use the com stuff no matter what your using so if your comfortable with MFC more power to you. Now as for your question what I think your looking for is the Outlook Object model which is called the OOM. Here is a link to it and you can interface with all the calendar and tasks and everything with it. I use the Pocket Outlook Object Model to do this on a PDA better known as POOM http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa142559.aspx Ken _____ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:27 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: creating an alarm clock in mfc > Well first I would like to ask why are you writing it in MFC if your using Visual studio 2005 why not use .net. I am trying to write accessible programs. It appears that .net isn't accessible fully and that can be annoying. MFC seems to be the most accessible besides win32 and win32s (but thats a pain to use). Either way, I would use c# if it was generally accessible. If you have ideas how to make this happen, let me know!! >Second if you have to do it in MFC you will want to look at the Outlook object model so that your calendar alarm clock will be compatible with current appointments and meetings > and tasks. So if you give me a > bit better description on what your up to I might be able to help since I am currently playing with a more accessible Pocket Outlook calendar > manager. I saw the Microsoft Outlook View and a few other controls in the com list of toolbox controls. What ones do I use and how? BTW, you can use those in .net *grin* I messed with the MediaPlayer control and it's pretty cool...