MessageHi, I think this is a bug in the MSAA implementation of the IDE, as no screen reader can get to it either, never mind the user. The only way you can possibly do this is to copy the controls to the clipboard, ensuring that a form is open, and paste the contents, however it'll be in some table layout form. I asked this very question a few months back, so that's how I was told about this "bug". Hope that helps. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy B To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: change default control used when dragging a table column to a c#win form Does anybody know how to do this in datasources window? The tutorials always say to click the arrow next to the column name and choose detail, but I cant even get that far... any ideas?