RE: Window-Eyes public beta released with powerful scripting capability

  • From: "Macarty, Jay {PBSG}" <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:31:47 -0500

Interesting observations. I will say that when Win-Eyes 7 crashed (which
it has done twice now) and when I couldn't get Jaws to talk, it was SA
which came to the rescue.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:45 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes public beta released with powerful scripting

This problem or lack thereof is the real beauty within System Access and
NVDA which play nicely with all other AT and leave few turds that might
break another bit of AT.  The big guys support more applications and
often do so in a more comprehensive manner but have not invested much
time or effort since Ben Weiss and I co-chaired the AT/AT compatibility
working group within ATIA.

What we need now is an Access Technology Consumer Association (ATCA)
that can hold its convention during the Industry Association's one in
Orlando in late January so people can attend both.  ATCA can gather
"demands and ideas"
from consumers, discuss how AT can improve in a manner we, the users,
care about and question the propaganda distributed at ATIA.

ATCA does not need to be at all hostile to the industry, its companies
and its people.  It just needs to politely address the issues our
members feel are the most important and try to work with industry and
free software people to achieve the long term goals.  AT vendors who
choose to ignore us will not receive our endorsements assuming they have
some value but we can put the list of our suggestions on a web page for
all to see what is and is not being addressed by industry.

Of course, I don't like the acronym "ATCA" as it sounds too much like a
shaving product.

Have fun,

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macarty, Jay
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:53 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes public beta released with powerful scripting

Don't know exactly what happened, but I tried using the new Eloquence
option in Window-Eyes 7 and it didn't work. But the worst part was that,
after I switched Window-Eyes back to access32, I couldn't get Jaws to
talk any more. Jaws would launch but there was no Braille and no speech
output. I had to re-install Jaws 9 to get it talking again.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 3:10 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; uaccess-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Window-Eyes public beta released with powerful scripting

-- Forwarded Message --
From: gw-news@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 Is Now Available!

After much anticipation, Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 is now available.
Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 offers the latest advancements in screen reading
technology, including full Unicode support, new scripting functionality,
web browsing enhancements, a new synthesizer, and much more.

Full Unicode support means the ability to work with more international
languages. Web browsing enhancements mean easier navigation between
controls, and the ability to add placemarkers that can remember places
on a webpage even when the webpage changes. ECI Eloquence 6.1 is now
available as yet another speech option. Other enhancements like speed
increases for list views, the system tray, and error reporting, being
able to increase and decrease the speech rate during read to end, new
options for keyboard voice interruptability, and numerous bug fixes make
Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 a welcome update.

The most notable enhancement in Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1, however, is
scripting. Window-Eyes scripting is unparalleled in its design and
implementation.  Rather than require a scripter to learn a proprietary
language, Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 allows a scripter to choose from a
number of standard computer languages for writing scripts.  This means
that more people will be able to take advantage of Window-Eyes
scripting, and ultimately more accessibility to more software
applications. Access all Window-Eyes features and settings, all
operating system windows and properties, create custom accessible
dialogs for user interaction with power and ease, and more.

To make scripts easily accessible and encourage script development, GW
Micro has created a centralized script repository called Script Central
( Script Central provides script developers with the
tools to distribute their scripts, and provides scripts users the tools
to download, comment, rate and track favorite scripts.  The GW Micro
( have also been enhanced for general script
discussions, script requests, script announcements, and much more. While
we encourage everyone to take advantage of Script Central, Window-Eyes
scripts can be hosted anywhere and distributed by anyone.

Read more about all of the features Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 has to offer,
and download your copy, at


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From: gw-news@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 - Default Installed Scripts


Window-Eyes 7.0 Beta 1 includes four script packages, automatically
installed for your convenience, that demonstrate the power Window-Eyes
scripting provides to enhance your daily computing experience. The
information for each script below is also found in the script's help and
options. You can access a script's help and options by opening the
Script Manager dialog (from the Manage Sets and Scripts pull down in the
Window-Eyes File menu), selecting the script you're interested in, then
selecting the Help and Options button (or pressing the Help and Options
button shortcut, H).

GW Toolkit

The GW Toolkit script provides a collection of commonly used shared
objects for use with other scripts, such as providing consistent help
information, managing hotkeys, and much more. The rest of the scripts
listed below require the GW Toolkit script's functionality. You can read
more about the objects contained in the GW Toolkit by reading through
the gwtoolkit.chm Help file, installed automatically to your user
profile directory.


AutoComplete provides announcement of inline autocompleted text and
suggestion list items in supported combo edit boxes, such as those in
the Start Menu's Run dialog, standard file save and open dialogs, and
many other areas.

To disable the speaking of inline autocompleted text, select the "Do Not
Speak" radio button. To speak only the text that autocompleted, select
the "Speak Completed Text" radio button. To speak the entire line (i.e.
what has been typed plus the text that autocompleted), select the "Speak
Entire Line" radio button.

To hear an index of the number of suggestions provided in the suggestion
popup list, check the "Speak Suggestion Index" check box. To hear the
first item in the suggestion list spoken, check the "Speak First
Suggestion" check box."

If toggling the "Enable Inline Autocomplete" check box does not work,
you can always verify this setting manually by toggling the "Use inline
AutoComplete" check box under the Advanced tab of the Internet Options
control panel.

Note that the suggestion popup list does not have anything selected by
default. To select the first item (the same item spoken if the "Speak
First Suggestion" option is enabled), press the Down Arrow.


The lvnav script is designed to allow you to virtually navigate a
listview.  You can use the insert arrows to virtually move through the
rows and columns in the listview. Insert-Home and Insert-End move to the
beginning and end of a row while Control-Insert-Home and
Control-Insert-End move to the top and bottom of a column.  You can also
use Alt-1 through Alt-0 to read columns 1 through 10.  If you want to
set focus to the virtual item you are on use Insert-Enter.  If you want
to set focus to the virtual item and add it to the current selection use
Control-Insert-Enter.  This script can be loaded globally to be
available for all listviews or in a specific application to only be
available for listviews within that application.

Progress Indicator

This script is designed to get you immediate feedback on the status of
progress bars in the active window.  There are two types of progress
The main progress bar contains a visual indicator as to the progress
giving sighted users a percentage from 0 to 100.  Marquee bars are
similar but they dont give a percentage.  Instead they just give a
sighted user an indication that progress is being made.  This script
gives you the ability to monitor both types independently.

Virtual View

Virtual View displays a text view of any window. To include graphic
labels, check the Include Labeled Graphics option. To include the window
type where the text came from, check the Include Window Types check box.
To prompt for the window to retrieve the text from, check the Always Ask
for Window Type check box. Virtual View also offers several quick keys
for accessing the dialog where the text originated. For example, if a
button called Close exists in the dialog where you obtained the virtual
view from, you can place your cursor on the word close, and press the
letter L to close the Virtual View dialog, and click the close button --
all in one key stroke. In addition to L for Single Left Click, other
commands are: R for Single Right Click, D for Double Left Click, M for
Middle Click, P for Route Mouse, and F for Focus Control. You can also
use Control-F to search for text in the Virtual View edit box, as well
as F3 to find the next occurrence of the last string searched for.

To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past
correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information
pertinent to your situation when submitting a problem report to the GW
Micro Technical Support Team.

Aaron Smith
GW Micro
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Technical Support & Web Development
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