I think Jim Homme said BlindProgramming.com was lost due to a virus, but he
can clarify if I misunderstood.
A wiki sounds great in theory. In practice, however, I have observed that
very few people actually contribute writing to a wiki. I have seen this
over and over, where someone proposes a wiki, encouraging responses say it's
a great idea, and then it never gets off the ground, or is initially
launched but hardly anyone actually contributes to it. I have seen versions
of this idea on this list, the JAWS scripting list, the Window-Eyes
scripting list, the BlindMath list, and others. So, I have no problem with
the idea, itself, but ask those interested why do they think this time that
it will turn out differently?
Jamal
On 7/5/2010 1:50 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
Well the wiki is not what killed it what killed it is someone did not pay
the net bill. That could have happened even if the page stayed the way it
was.
Oh and by the way why hasn't someone put in for something like
blindprogramming-usa.com or something more generic like
blindprogramming-free.net or .com or something
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:07 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
tutorials
ok, I skipped a few posts on this line due to some troubles, a note here
the
former owner did this, switched to a wikki and that is when the blind
programming site went flat on its nose then we lost the site and then the
site name
I will assist where possible, but I have to wonder if this try will do any
better than the first one did?
up to you folks, just wanted to let these facts be known.
elf
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
- own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
www.alacorncomputer.com
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared Wright"<wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
tutorials
Definitely no deficiency, but it requires Jamal to handle putting all the
content online himself. Same for Elf with his site. This way the
community
can directly effect the site's content, which will probably lead to more
relevant and up to date information. Swell idea, I think.
On 7/4/2010 10:02 PM, qubit wrote:
I'm coming to this thread late, but what about jamal's
nonvisualdevelopment.org site?
It sounds like it does all the things people want.
Or is there a deficiency?
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry"<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
tutorials
I will talk to the people who can say yes but I think APH will give
blind
programming a permanent home if people think it's a good idea. We could
run
the email list from there in fact we could run multiple and we could
have
a
droople page where everything is kept. The same people that work on it
now
could do what little they can do an we could all share the
responsibility.
ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
McBride
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:28 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
tutorials
I think it's the only way to go, Ken. Drupal is powerful enough to
host anything from a simple website to a large online community,
accessible both in terms of its administration& useability,& is
perfectly suited for something like this.
I've partnered w/a web developer friend of Mine, Elise Lonsdale,&
used drupal to make
http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org
We've found it to be a rewarding venture in terms of the way Drupal
works. It does have somewhat of a steep learning curve initially, but
I think that's the same w/all web development. Elise says it's a lot
easier than other CMS's she's worked with. My vote is, if u can get
it, we should do it.
On 7/4/10, Ken Perry<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't understand why we don't get a droople page set up. If people
are
interested I will talk to APH about hosting a true droople site for
blind
programmers. I would end up being the one choosing editors so I could
let
any number of you guys edit the page. It would be done with the simple
wiki
language and would be easy to use.
What do you all think?
ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 6:46 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
tutorials
alright, sounds great, as I said in my post, I would do the work, but
my
time is getting squeezed out of existence, adding one page link will be
no
trouble, its the maintenance and such that would wring me out.
I'll send you a blanked body page so all the color and other stuff
matches
the site, and you just fill in the body, I usually use H2 headers for a
section like changing from the C section to the C++ one, and h3 for sub
divisions within a section myself, but as long as it's navagateable its
great.
elf
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
- own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
www.alacorncomputer.com
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Midence"<alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
tutorials
Hello, Elf,
I would be willing to write the page. I can send it to you and you
could link it to your site. I don't have website hosting at the
moment or I'd do it. It would make much more sense to place it in a
frequented site like yours or the blind developers' site though.
Could structure it by giving each language a heading with links to the
corresponding tutorials in an unordered list. Make it quick to
navigate that way. Would also make sense to link any editors, ide's
and compilers within it as well so it's a one-stop experience. I
think this would make for a flexible format because if someone wants
to let us know about a link to tutorials for a language we don't have,
all we have to do is add a heading for it
Any thoughts?
Alex M
ps There's another Alex out here somewhere. Figured I'd sign with my
last initial to keep confusion to a minimum.
On 7/2/10, The Elf<inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
if someone will update and send me the page I will add it to my site,
I
just
don't have the time right now to do decent updating on the grab bag
since
I
have to have the beta version of my pencil and paper RPG game ready
to
roll
in a few months and am short on useable time as it is
elf
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
- own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
www.alacorncomputer.com
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Homme, James"<james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: Where did the blind programming site go?: was:
programming
tutorials
Hi,
Go up to http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org or the Elf's grab bag
site.
Jamal, I can pull information from this thread together and send to
you
for
the FAQ.
Jim
Jim Homme,
Usability Services,
Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
McBride
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:04 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
tutorials
Blindprogramming.com seems like it's dead. This thread about
tutorials
& stuff is good, but it remains on this list. Any possibility we
can
get a wiki or something in which to store this info?
--
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