Re: Visual Studio 2003
- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:35:05 +0300
I am using mainly TextPad for creating perl programs, and I run them with a
hotkey defined in TextPad.
It is very accessible for the blind and much responsive than VS.net.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: dusty bray
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: Visual Studio 2003
Sorry everybody-- after i sent my message, i realized i probably should have
worded my question a little better. i'm glad it didn't cause an all-out
language war. smile.
What i really intended was to gather opinions on the best IDE for blind
beginners. The specific language isn't quite as important. Since this will be
an online course, i want to find something virtually fool-proof for novice
programmers to install and access independently.
i'm leaning toward Visual Studio 2005 since many of you suggested it;
however, you are all seasoned programmers and very competent at setting up
software, installing scripts, and doing whatever it takes to make something
work properly. Even sighted users feel inundated by all the features when they
first see Visual Studio. i'm surprised no one suggested an IDE that is a
little less intimidating. i was expecting something more along the lines of a
simple text-editor interface with a compile command. smile. As a beginner, i
remember that i started out in a very simple environment. i just want to wet
their pallets for programming and avoid setting them up for discouragement. Am
i underestimating the average blind computer user?
Thanks for all the suggestions,
dusty.......
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From: will@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:22:30 +0100
Hi,
Visual Studio 2005 and the scripts are probably the more accessible
solution. Quite a lot of accessibility bugs that were present in Visual Studio
2003 were fixed in Visual Studio 2005, and whilst the add-in that Brett Lewis
developed addresses some of these problems in Visual Studio 2003 it doesn't
address all the problems that were fixed in Visual Studio 2005, either by
changes to Visual Studio or the scripts.
You can obtain a free starter version of Visual Studio 2005 in the form of
one of the Express editions. These are versions of Visual Studio 2005 aimed at
beginner programmers and each Express edition covers a particular language.
There are Express editions for VB, C#, C++, J#, ASP .Net, and SQL Server. As
they are aimed at the beginner they come with more material aimed at beginners,
such as starter kits, than other editions of Visual Studio 2005 or Visual
Studio 2003.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: inthaneelf
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
there are sets of "add ins" for the VS 2003 version at my grab bag sight,
but there only for jaws 5 and 6 I do believe, using VS 2005 with the scripts
for it available on the grab bag would be better in some ways.
hth,
inthane
• For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
Links to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
• to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: John Greer
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
not too certain about this, but I do know for a fact there are Jaws
scripts for Visual Studio 6 and Visual Studio 2005. Whether or not either of
those script sets will work for 2003 I am not sure. And at the risk of
sounding like an advertisement, you may also want to try my website Blind
Crawler and see what the search engine comes up with.
JohnPG search for all of your Jaws scripts at
http://www.blindcrawler.com/
Also be sure to check out Blind Crawler's Legend of the Green Dragon
server at http://www.blindcrawler.com/lotg/
There will be more to come from Blind Crawler very soon.
Administrator: John Greer
Blind Crawler.com
----- Original Message -----
From: dusty bray
To: ProgrammingBlind@freelistsorg
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Visual Studio 2003
Hey everyone,
i know you guys will be able to give me the best advice about this.
(i almost started on a wild goose chase for JAWS scripts, but thought better of
it.)
i just installed Visual Studio 2003 on my brother's computer so that
i can introduce him to VB.NET. i'm really surprised that JAWS behaves very
well for selecting controls and adding them to the form, but performs very
badly everywhere else. In the code window, it just keeps reading the path of
the file instead of the text at the cursor. In the properties window, it reads
the value repeatedly (i guess because it's actually refreshing, though i can't
tell visually).
How do you guys get around this problems? Does anyone here use this
version of Visual Studio, or should we be using something more accessible?
Thanks so much for the help,
dusty.......
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