RE: Visual Studio 2003
- From: dusty bray <dusty_bray@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:45:11 -0400
Sorry everybody-- after i sent my message, i realized i probably should have
worded my question a little better. i'm glad it didn't cause an all-out
language war. smile.
What i really intended was to gather opinions on the best IDE for blind
beginners. The specific language isn't quite as important. Since this will be
an online course, i want to find something virtually fool-proof for novice
programmers to install and access independently.
i'm leaning toward Visual Studio 2005 since many of you suggested it; however,
you are all seasoned programmers and very competent at setting up software,
installing scripts, and doing whatever it takes to make something work
properly. Even sighted users feel inundated by all the features when they
first see Visual Studio. i'm surprised no one suggested an IDE that is a
little less intimidating. i was expecting something more along the lines of a
simple text-editor interface with a compile command. smile. As a beginner, i
remember that i started out in a very simple environment. i just want to wet
their pallets for programming and avoid setting them up for discouragement. Am
i underestimating the average blind computer user?
Thanks for all the suggestions,
dusty.......
From: will@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:22:30 +0100
Hi,
Visual Studio 2005 and the scripts are probably the more
accessible solution. Quite a lot of accessibility bugs that were present
in Visual Studio 2003 were fixed in Visual Studio 2005, and whilst the add-in
that Brett Lewis developed addresses some of these problems in Visual Studio
2003 it doesn't address all the problems that were fixed in Visual Studio 2005,
either by changes to Visual Studio or the scripts.
You can obtain a free starter version of Visual Studio
2005 in the form of one of the Express editions. These are versions of
Visual Studio 2005 aimed at beginner programmers and each Express edition
covers
a particular language. There are Express editions for VB, C#, C++, J#, ASP
.Net, and SQL Server. As they are aimed at the beginner they come with
more material aimed at beginners, such as starter kits, than other editions of
Visual Studio 2005 or Visual Studio 2003.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From:
inthaneelf
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:06
AM
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
there are sets of "add ins" for the VS 2003 version at
my grab bag sight, but there only for jaws 5 and 6 I do believe, using VS
2005
with the scripts for it available on the grab bag would be better in some
ways.
hth,
inthane
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----- Original Message -----
From:
John
Greer
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:09
PM
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
not too certain about this, but I do know for a fact
there are Jaws scripts for Visual Studio 6 and Visual Studio 2005.
Whether or not either of those script sets will work for 2003 I am not
sure. And at the risk of sounding like an advertisement, you may also
want to try my website Blind Crawler and see what the search engine comes
up
with.
JohnPG search for all of your Jaws scripts at http://www.blindcrawler.com/
Also
be sure to check out Blind Crawler's Legend of the Green Dragon server at
http://www.blindcrawler.com/lotg/
There
will be more to come from Blind Crawler very soon.
Administrator: John
Greer
Blind Crawler.com
----- Original Message -----
From:
dusty
bray
To: ProgrammingBlind@freelistsorg
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 3:59
PM
Subject: Visual Studio 2003
Hey everyone,
i know you guys will be able to give
me the best advice about this. (i almost started on a wild goose
chase for JAWS scripts, but thought better of it.)
i just installed
Visual Studio 2003 on my brother's computer so that i can introduce him
to
VB.NET. i'm really surprised that JAWS behaves very well for
selecting controls and adding them to the form, but performs very badly
everywhere else. In the code window, it just keeps reading the path
of the file instead of the text at the cursor. In the properties
window, it reads the value repeatedly (i guess because it's actually
refreshing, though i can't tell visually).
How do you guys get
around this problems? Does anyone here use this version of Visual
Studio, or should we be using something more accessible?
Thanks so
much for the help,
dusty.......
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