Thanks man. I'll do that. The download that took forever on my 2.4 Mbps wireless connection finally finished, and Ihope it all went well. Just got the normal (not the free software only) release for now of the 3.1 version of the CD ISO. I'm sure it will be a surprising experience. Whenever I take a look at Linux and especially AT software after not having used it a while I'm almost always surprised at how far things have come along. Would be wonderful to get some work this coming year which Ican do the development for in Linux only.
Later. On 12/27/2010 11:58 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
Ok then after reading your reasons. I think you're missing out not getting Vinux. Bill and others have done a lot of work to make it so speech dispatcher and other portions of this are stable. I will point out that even an unstable debion is better than windows. I would only suggest you give it a try. It might surprise you this time around. ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:39 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Vinux from Debian 5.0.7? Hi Ken, Hey Ireally like Debian's proper approach and non commercial nature. It's also very close to what I can call the Open Source ideals and GNU Linux spirit of free computing. I'm also familiar with it and find it a great distro to invest in since it's a popular choice for servers as well. Since Vinux is built on Ubuntu, which is built on Debian unstable (according to Wikipedia), that means Vinux is built from the second to most unreliable Debian release. Debian releases are, from most unstable to most stable: experimental unstable testing stable old-stable Now I've extensively used Ubuntu for about a year and managed to have a fairly pleasant development environment and overall computing experience, but I was just thinking, all those hours that I had to put into tuning things and fixing problems, could it not have been avoided had I gone with a less flashy and more stable Debian instead? The only problem I can see with going with the Debian stable release is that some packages Iwould like to use is not available for it yet since generally speaking, most stable packages are about 1 year old (even longer) but the whole overall system is more stable, and the individual packages also (but with less features of course). Most noteably would be the AT packages. I mean, I can put up with Python 2.6 even 2.5, but not with a speech dispatcher that hangs all the time, or an Orca version that can't report the object under the mouse. I suppose a speech dispatcher that hangs all the time would not even make it into the stable distro, so no speech dispatcher then all together. Choosing a distro to go with has never been a simple choice, and it doesn't get simpler either ha ha. I must say, Ihave enjoyed Ubuntu's good hardware support, plenty of online help and some AT packages working out of the box. Cheers On 12/27/2010 9:33 PM, Ken Perry wrote:First Vinux is pretty stable. If you get 3.0 or beyond I do have my issues with it but as it goes it is much more stable than previous attempts. My question to you is what is your reasoning to wanting to go with Debion. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:15 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Vinux from Debian 5.0.7? Hi list, Does anyone know if there exists a list of packages and modifications, and notes on how to make the mods which one could apply to gain the same accessibility found on Vinux but on a Debian stable distribution? I would prefer to run Debian rather than Vinux. I also understand it is possible to transform an Ubuntu system to a Vinux system by installing something like vinux-lucid (is this also available for the latest 10.10 Ubuntu named maverick)? Thanks in advance.
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