hi, i would prefer vb.net. could we include a tree list? i have part of this created and the main nodes are the letters of the alphabet in segments of three, then singles, then names starting with that letter. so the top node may be ABC, and expands to show A, B, C, vertically, then if you expand A, it shows your friends names like Alan Jackson, Andy Smith, etc. and selecting one refreshes a pane with their name, address, phone numbers, email, etc. I meant to continue this program but it got put on the shelf. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: RicksPlace To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:03 AM Subject: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project Hi: There have been a few folks who want to get started programming in either Vb.net or C#.net. If there is some interest in learning to work in one of these languages I will walk through designing a simple project and then work with any interested folks on building the project in either Vb.net, C#.net or both. If we do it on list the project will be in the archives and, or, anyone with an interest in the step by step tutorial can upload them to some online repository. If you are interested in this idea let me know and, if we get a couple of folks to walk through the lessons, I will start from scratch perhaps this weekend or Monday. I will have to download and install C# Express 2008 if you want to stick with that language but it can be done. If you have an idea for a project let me know. Otherwise I will just pick one like the PhoneBook Project I mentioned to get started. I will also post some links to articles, or post some of my own, related to the technicals we will be using so we can discuss them openly and answer questions. The idea will be to teach how to research technicals online, how to use the VS IDE with a screen reader and how to do a little vb or C# programming to process things like clicking a button or accessing a Data Storage File of some sort. Let me know what you think about this idea. Rick USA