Re: VS2010 Poses Challenge Against Visually Challenged

  • From: Chris Hallsworth <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:45:49 +0000

Well, that is brilliant! I have JAWS 11, but if the Express editions of VS are going to be free (should it exist at all), then we have not only a free IDE, but also a free screen reader to work with!



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On 19/02/2010 11:31, Hrvoje Katić wrote:
NVDA supports UI Automation and code editor in VS2010 is simply
accessible with it. I tried loading a VB project and reading by
line/word/character works well. Therefore, not sure why it doesn't work
with JAWS 11 because JAWS11 also supports UI Automation. I didn't try
RC, the last one I've tried is beta2.

On 19.2.2010 10:25, Chris Hallsworth wrote:
Oh wow! How do you mean you got it to work with NVDA?


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On 19/02/2010 06:56, Hrvoje Katić wrote:
I got code editor in VS2010 working with NVDA, so it's interesting why
it doesn't work with JFW.

On 19.2.2010 6:30, Varun Khosla wrote:
Hi,

I've downloaded and installed the update (october 26 release)
consulting the Windows UI Automation blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/winuiautomation/archive/2009/09/16/announcing-the-platform-update-for-windows-vista.aspx


Though the menus have started working with Jaws 11, yet the code
window behaving the same — no improvements.

I don't know — being my office computer always connected to internet —
how Windows Update missed this release, although it frequently
downloads some sort of updates.

On 2/18/10, Hrvoje Katić<hrvojekatic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
They added UI Automation support to VS2010, so if you're using XP,
it's
recommended to install UI Automation update for XP and use JAWS 11
which
supports UI Automation.

On 18.2.2010 15:35, Varun Khosla wrote:
Hi listers,
What was expected has turned out to be true: MS has translated
most of
its VS user interface into WPF user interface in the latest
release of
its popular IDE — VS 2010. I have installed VS 2010 RC today and
found
the most basic things — the code editor — totally inaccessible with
Jaws (10) due to being developed in WPF. Then, I installed jaws 11,
hoping for some resolution, as it is boasted to support UIA (WPF
accessibility API) — but it too turned out to be of little help —
even
menus which were accessible with Jaws10 became inaccessible. Although
some sort of reading abbility is regained with the code editor — but
not at all matching the standard we, as programmers, expect.

Things are getting more and more challenging and difficult as MS
continues to experiment with its UI.




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