Re: VMWare

  • From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:13:48 +0300

Ok! I haven't thought to try setting it to get an IP automaticly.
I will try to see if it works that way.

Thank you.

Octavian
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare


Hello Teddy,
No, you can not. This is the problem I am still trying to come with a
generic solution which will work for everyone when I put my slackware
vm on. Let me explain quickly how it works.
In the bridged model, your physical network card will respond to
requests on the hots's ip and in the virtual machine's ip. Take a look
at this senarius:
1- I have a router which connects to the isp.
2- This router is referred as gateway.
3- I set my host ip to 192.168.9.2 and the internal address of the
gateway is 192.168.9.1
4- I fill the default gateway field on my host of the ip
configurations to 192.168.9.1
5- Everytime host tries to access the internet it will ask my gateway
to do it on its beauf.
This is the way that computers in a typical network will share a
internet connection. All of them have its own ip address and all of
them point the default gateway to the internal router's ip address,
and the router takes care of connectiong them to the net. In this
senarius, the bridged connection is the choice, because you just have
to assign a ip address to your virtual machine and use the router
internal ip address as your gateway, as you would do with just another
physical machine in the network. The bridged connection puts your
virtual machine in the network as if it were a physical one. Even
more, the other machines in the network aren't aware that this is a
virtual machine.
The problem arises when there is no router and only one machine is
connected to the internet. Take a look at this:
1- Your host is connected to a modem and it gets a new ip address via dhcp.
2- Tere is no a internal network.

This seen to be the case with you, and most part of folks. In this
case, the nat model is the solution.
In this model, your host is used as a gateway to your virtual machine.
The main problem with this is that vmware itself assigns a random ip
address to virtual machines, as they are not in any kind of network.
This, as noted before, isn't good cinse I want to give a fixed ip
address to the virtual machine in order to allow ssh.
At home and in the work my vm works perfectly, cinse I am behind
routers in thiese two cases, but I am still figuring out how to make
virtual machines work with fixed ip addresses while using the nat
model.
In your virtual machine, select the bridged model and set the windows
on the virtual machine to get an ip dinamically. This should solve the
problem.
hth
Marlon

2007/9/30, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>:
Ok, I can do that, but could I run both systems with the same IP? (the guest 
and the host)

Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Reiser" <metalhead1009000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare


>I guess enter the ip they give you, never heard of isps using static
>addresses but I guesss enter the one they give you.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: VMWare
>
>
>> Ok, thank you. And in that case what iP address do I need to set for >> the 
>> guest OS?
>> I guess that I need to set a different iP address than the host OS.
>>
>> The problem is that my ISP allows connections to the internet only from >> a 
>> certain address, and they also verify the mac address of the network
>> card.
>>
>> Thank you for clarifications.
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Reiser" <metalhead1009000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: VMWare
>>
>>
>>> Use bridged networking, it'll use the networking settings from the >>> host 
>>> OS.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 3:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: VMWare
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Marlon,
>>>>
>>>> VMWare Workstation has more options and some helpful wizards that >>>> makes 
>>>> the configuration easier.
>>>> It also has a wizard for choosing the folders that we want to be
>>>> shared, and I read that those folders should appear in My Network
>>>> places and they could also be mapped as drives.
>>>>
>>>> I finally succeeded to use the USB flash memory and I installed Jaws >>>> on >>>> the virtual Windows. For the moment I still have some issues >>>> regarding 
>>>> networking, because I cannot access the internet from the virtual OS,
>>>> and I cannot share folders.
>>>>
>>>> But this be because I've created the virtual machine with VMware >>>> server 
>>>> and then I use it with VMWare Workstation, or maybe because I didn't
>>>> created it correctly.
>>>>
>>>> VMWare Workstation package also includes VMWare server, but I am sure
>>>> that if I would try to run it with VMWare server, I will still have
>>>> those problems.
>>>>
>>>> Now when I turn it on it appears an error message with the subject >>>> "No 
>>>> disk", and I can continue only if I choose the cancel button.
>>>> After that point, I can work fine under the virtual Windows.
>>>>
>>>> When I created the virtual image using VMWare Server, it didn't set >>>> the 
>>>> option of accepting the USB. I've created another one using VMWare
>>>> Workstation, and in that configuration file I've seen a line >>>> something 
>>>> with "USB" in it. So I've copied it in the configuration file of the
>>>> image created with VMWare Server, and now that image can detect USB.
>>>>
>>>> I think that all the configuration files for all VMWare products are
>>>> the same and if you know how to configure them manually, you don't >>>> need 
>>>> VMWare Workstation. However, I am a true newbie in this field yet,
>>>> so...
>>>>
>>>> By the way, do you know what type of network connection should I set >>>> in 
>>>> the virtual machine?
>>>> bridged? NAT? Something else?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Octavian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: VMWare
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Teddy,
>>>>> Would you explain me why vmware workstation is better?
>>>>> I don't know how to run vmware workstation, but you have to >>>>> configure 
>>>>> the vmware virtual machine network in the vmware workstation and set
>>>>> an ip to your virtual machine, then you can use a mapped directory. >>>>> I >>>>> did not scripted vmware workstation, I did it with vmware server >>>>> only. 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>
>>>>> 2007/9/29, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>> No it is not free. Only VMWare server and VMWare player are free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, VMWare Workstation is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I discovered how to ungrab the focus using Control+alt, but I still
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> share files...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Octavian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "alex" <laptop456@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:32 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: VMWare
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Is it free?
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:34 PM
>>>>>> > Subject: VMWare
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I've installed VMWare Workstation and I installed another >>>>>> >> Windows 
>>>>>> >> XP on
>>>>>> >> it.
>>>>>> >> The virtual OS is very accessible, but I got a few problems:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> 1. I don't know how to get out if I want to use the host OS.
>>>>>> >> I know that I can use control+alt or something else (because I
>>>>>> >> defined
>>>>>> >> that hotkey to control+Shift+alt) but it doesn't do anything. >>>>>> >> The 
>>>>>> >> focus
>>>>>> >> is sttill in the guest OS.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> 2. I am using the guest OS only with Narrator because I couldn't
>>>>>> >> find a
>>>>>> >> way of sharing files or folders with the host OS.
>>>>>> >> I have chosen to share the files, and I selected the folder I >>>>>> >> want 
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> share, but I don't know where on the guest OS should appear that
>>>>>> >> folder.
>>>>>> >> I've tried to find it under My Network Places, the shared
>>>>>> >> documents, my
>>>>>> >> documents, or as another removable storage, but I couldn't find
>>>>>> >> it.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> 3. I don't know why, but in the guest OS I cannot see the memory
>>>>>> >> stick if
>>>>>> >> I insert it.
>>>>>> >> Do you know if I need to do something special in order to detect
>>>>>> >> when it
>>>>>> >> is inserted?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thank you.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Octavian
>>>>>> >>
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