RE: VMWare

  • From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:30:31 -0400

Just pick nat, instead of bridge, and then in the virtual machine assign
itself an ip address, and you've got static.

Take care,
Sina


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão
de Sousa
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:06 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: VMWare

Hello Teddy,
No, you can not. This is the problem I am still trying to come with a
generic solution which will work for everyone when I put my slackware vm on.
Let me explain quickly how it works.
In the bridged model, your physical network card will respond to requests on
the hots's ip and in the virtual machine's ip. Take a look at this senarius:
1- I have a router which connects to the isp.
2- This router is referred as gateway.
3- I set my host ip to 192.168.9.2 and the internal address of the gateway
is 192.168.9.1
4- I fill the default gateway field on my host of the ip configurations to
192.168.9.1
5- Everytime host tries to access the internet it will ask my gateway to do
it on its beauf.
This is the way that computers in a typical network will share a internet
connection. All of them have its own ip address and all of them point the
default gateway to the internal router's ip address, and the router takes
care of connectiong them to the net. In this senarius, the bridged
connection is the choice, because you just have to assign a ip address to
your virtual machine and use the router internal ip address as your gateway,
as you would do with just another physical machine in the network. The
bridged connection puts your virtual machine in the network as if it were a
physical one. Even more, the other machines in the network aren't aware that
this is a virtual machine.
The problem arises when there is no router and only one machine is connected
to the internet. Take a look at this:
1- Your host is connected to a modem and it gets a new ip address via dhcp.
2- Tere is no a internal network.

This seen to be the case with you, and most part of folks. In this case, the
nat model is the solution.
In this model, your host is used as a gateway to your virtual machine.
The main problem with this is that vmware itself assigns a random ip address
to virtual machines, as they are not in any kind of network.
This, as noted before, isn't good cinse I want to give a fixed ip address to
the virtual machine in order to allow ssh.
At home and in the work my vm works perfectly, cinse I am behind routers in
thiese two cases, but I am still figuring out how to make virtual machines
work with fixed ip addresses while using the nat model.
In your virtual machine, select the bridged model and set the windows on the
virtual machine to get an ip dinamically. This should solve the problem.
hth
Marlon

2007/9/30, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Ok, I can do that, but could I run both systems with the same IP? (the 
> guest and the host)
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Reiser" <metalhead1009000@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: VMWare
>
>
> >I guess enter the ip they give you, never heard of isps using static 
> >addresses but I guesss enter the one they give you.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: VMWare
> >
> >
> >> Ok, thank you. And in that case what iP address do I need to set 
> >> for the guest OS?
> >> I guess that I need to set a different iP address than the host OS.
> >>
> >> The problem is that my ISP allows connections to the internet only 
> >> from a certain address, and they also verify the mac address of the 
> >> network card.
> >>
> >> Thank you for clarifications.
> >>
> >> Octavian
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mike Reiser" <metalhead1009000@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:42 AM
> >> Subject: Re: VMWare
> >>
> >>
> >>> Use bridged networking, it'll use the networking settings from the 
> >>> host OS.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 3:45 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: VMWare
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Marlon,
> >>>>
> >>>> VMWare Workstation has more options and some helpful wizards that 
> >>>> makes the configuration easier.
> >>>> It also has a wizard for choosing the folders that we want to be 
> >>>> shared, and I read that those folders should appear in My Network 
> >>>> places and they could also be mapped as drives.
> >>>>
> >>>> I finally succeeded to use the USB flash memory and I installed 
> >>>> Jaws on the virtual Windows. For the moment I still have some 
> >>>> issues regarding networking, because I cannot access the internet 
> >>>> from the virtual OS, and I cannot share folders.
> >>>>
> >>>> But this be because I've created the virtual machine with VMware 
> >>>> server and then I use it with VMWare Workstation, or maybe 
> >>>> because I didn't created it correctly.
> >>>>
> >>>> VMWare Workstation package also includes VMWare server, but I am 
> >>>> sure that if I would try to run it with VMWare server, I will 
> >>>> still have those problems.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now when I turn it on it appears an error message with the 
> >>>> subject "No disk", and I can continue only if I choose the cancel
button.
> >>>> After that point, I can work fine under the virtual Windows.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I created the virtual image using VMWare Server, it didn't 
> >>>> set the option of accepting the USB. I've created another one 
> >>>> using VMWare Workstation, and in that configuration file I've 
> >>>> seen a line something with "USB" in it. So I've copied it in the 
> >>>> configuration file of the image created with VMWare Server, and now
that image can detect USB.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that all the configuration files for all VMWare products 
> >>>> are the same and if you know how to configure them manually, you 
> >>>> don't need VMWare Workstation. However, I am a true newbie in 
> >>>> this field yet, so...
> >>>>
> >>>> By the way, do you know what type of network connection should I 
> >>>> set in the virtual machine?
> >>>> bridged? NAT? Something else?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Octavian
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:13 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: VMWare
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello Teddy,
> >>>>> Would you explain me why vmware workstation is better?
> >>>>> I don't know how to run vmware workstation, but you have to 
> >>>>> configure the vmware virtual machine network in the vmware 
> >>>>> workstation and set an ip to your virtual machine, then you can 
> >>>>> use a mapped directory. I did not scripted vmware workstation, I did
it with vmware server only.
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Marlon
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2007/9/29, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>>>> No it is not free. Only VMWare server and VMWare player are free.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, VMWare Workstation is better.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I discovered how to ungrab the focus using Control+alt, but I 
> >>>>>> still can't share files...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Octavian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "alex" <laptop456@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:32 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: VMWare
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > Is it free?
> >>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:34 PM
> >>>>>> > Subject: VMWare
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >> Hi,
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> I've installed VMWare Workstation and I installed another 
> >>>>>> >> Windows XP on it.
> >>>>>> >> The virtual OS is very accessible, but I got a few problems:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> 1. I don't know how to get out if I want to use the host OS.
> >>>>>> >> I know that I can use control+alt or something else (because 
> >>>>>> >> I defined that hotkey to control+Shift+alt) but it doesn't 
> >>>>>> >> do anything. The focus is sttill in the guest OS.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> 2. I am using the guest OS only with Narrator because I 
> >>>>>> >> couldn't find a way of sharing files or folders with the 
> >>>>>> >> host OS.
> >>>>>> >> I have chosen to share the files, and I selected the folder 
> >>>>>> >> I want to share, but I don't know where on the guest OS 
> >>>>>> >> should appear that folder.
> >>>>>> >> I've tried to find it under My Network Places, the shared 
> >>>>>> >> documents, my documents, or as another removable storage, 
> >>>>>> >> but I couldn't find it.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> 3. I don't know why, but in the guest OS I cannot see the 
> >>>>>> >> memory stick if I insert it.
> >>>>>> >> Do you know if I need to do something special in order to 
> >>>>>> >> detect when it is inserted?
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Thank you.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Octavian
> >>>>>> >>
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