Re: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!

  • From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 08:13:07 -0400

I agree! Perhaps they have new features coming for Workstation to entice people to buy Workstation? Otherwise, I am pleasantly baffled. 


Don Marang

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From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:10 AM
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!
Hmm, I wonder why they're all of a sudden killing the value of Workstation. Not that I'm complaining, I like free software that does more stuff. 
On 7/3/2010 5:17 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
Correct. The main reason somebody would want Workstation is a feature called snapshots, a way to take an "image" of the virtual machine, so it can be restored at a later date, without manually recreating the virtual machine. But I can see this will be in Player soon. 


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On 03/07/2010 9:54, iSHE cHINYOKA wrote:

Hi Chris,
So it means that as of v3.0, I can do without a VMware workstation?
And as a point of interest, why would one need a workstation?

----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!



Sorry, let me re-write.
Not anymore. As of VMware Player 3.0 it is possible to create, edit,
as well as run virtual machines.



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On 03/07/2010 9:06, chris hallsworth wrote:
Not anymore. As of VMware Player 3.0 is it possible to create, edit, as 
well as run virtual machines.


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On 03/07/2010 8:34, Jared Wright wrote:
VMWare Player runs virtual environments set up with VMWare Workstation, 
if i have everything correct. You do not need Workstation to use
Player,
but if you want to do any tweaking of the virtual machine Workstation
would be required.
On 7/3/2010 3:25 AM, iSHE cHINYOKA wrote:

Hi Don,

Thanks for the VMware scripts and a bit of details you gave on the
site. I am just wondering whether one needs the workstation as well if 
they downloaded the Player, or they are independent of each other.
(Hey, I learnt more about this product on your page than anyway else!) 
I need to try this Vinux first on my desktop before committing it to
my Lifebook notebook.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Marang"
<donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!



I do not know the details of your previous VMware experience, so I
can not comment on that. In the previous version of Player 2.5, Chris 
Hallsworth and I wrote some JAWS scripts to help make it more
accessible. I ended up extending the scripts to Workstation 6.5. We
were pleasantly surprised that the new releases of the Player 7.0 and 
Workstation were much improved and almost 90% accessible without
scripts. Player 3.0 also provided the capability to create Virtual
Machines. Still I updated the script package so it now supports
Player 2.5, Player 3.1 (latest), and Workstation 6.5/7.1 (latest).
Even though without scripts, almost all functionality is accessible, 
the scripts provide a few nice extras to read the summary pane and
announce the VM state in Workstation as you arrow up and down in the 
Sidebar. They are not absolutely necessary like before. The scripts
are provided in the Vinux Virtual Edition or can be downloaded at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/VMware.html
Running VMware in a 64 bit host should not cause any problems that I 
am aware of. However, I can not personally testify to this.

Don Marang

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From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:57 PM
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!


Sorry, but could you tell us more about the virtual edition? How
would
I use it, using jaws11 on win7x64? Last time I tried a VMWare
program
it did not work with Jaws and I got nothing but trouble from the
Ubuntu running on it.

On 7/2/10, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Vinux is a Linux distribution based on the latest Ubuntu 10.0.4
Lucid
customized and configured for the blind and visually impaired
community. It
has the Orca screen reader for the GUI interface and SpeakUp for
the
console. It also has other screen readers installed and two
magnifiers.
However, it is more than a preconfigured distro, many serious
accessibility
bugs have been squashed and fed back upstream to be included in the 
main
Ubuntu repository. Anyone interested in Linux and / or Open Source 
software, and this should be everybody, should check this out.
It is
available as a live CD, live DVD, live USB pen drive, and now a
Virtual
Edition. A live disk is a bootable disk with full capabilities. The 
USB
edition has persistence to allow personal data and changes to be
made to the
live disk. Of course, for maximum performance, install Vinux
natively to
your hard disk. If needed, it can install as a dual boot system
next to
Windows.

Don Marang


From: David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:35 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!
May I ask a silly question? What is this used for? I've been out of 
the
unix world for about a decade. I will be looking for work in the
next year
or so, so I'm wondering if it is something I should spend some
time in
investigating.

thanks for your thoughts,
david

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Marang
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Fw: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!


I am downloading this now. Vinux 3 is amazing! This Edition
provides a
preconfigured Virtual Machine with all of the extra features
already ready
to go. If virtualization is not for you, try the live CD at
vinux.org.uk.

Don Marang


From: Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:04 PM
To: vinux-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [VINUX] Vinux Virtual Edition now released!


Vinux 3.0 now released!

Back by popular demand, version 3.0 of the Vinux operating system
is here.
i'd recommend that all new users read all the documentation before 
powering
on their virtual machines, as the documentation has been updated
significantly and a new version of VMware player has been included 
that has
extra features. some of the changes that have been made in this
version are
as follows:

* After intensive testing for nearly a month, The vinux virtual
edition
has been re-built based on Vinux 3.0 using VMWare player instead of 
workstation.
* Both a new version and an old version of VMware player have been 
included to insure maximum compatibility with both new and older
systems.
* The internal virtual hard drive was changed from IDE to SCSI for 
this
release, this should improve performance but if it does not, it
will have to
be back to IDE for the next release. In terms of size, the drive is 
40 GB,
adequate for most users.
* VMware shared folders and copy/paste features have been
included, as
well as a VMware menu item to access shared folders.
* A "Change Hotkey" file is now available which allows users to
change the
default hotkey combination of control alt to control alt shift when releasing input with a couple of clicks. Its as simple as clicking 
a batch
file and answering y at the prompt.
* Quick start guides have now been included in both RTF and HTML
format.
* A web links folder has now been added to the archive so users can download jaws scripts, visit the main Vinux homepage, and visit the 
new
Vinux Virtual Edition website.
* A new Vinux Virtual Edition website has now been launched. This
can be
found at vinuxvirtual.org.uk. Although this website is still under 
construction, most things are working at the time of release.
* A windows USB based method has also been created so users can
place
Vinux on a pen drive and use it on any computer, more information
and a
quick start guide can be found on the Vinux Virtual website, this
will be
announced separately when the guide is available online.

Please visit the downloads page at the following URL to download
the
latest version of the Virtual edition from the mirror closest to
you! At the
time of writing, there are 3 mirrors available, some may be faster 
than
others.

http://vinuxvirtual.org.uk/downloads/

If you are unsure which mirror to use, try the main mirror first.
A link to the main mirror has been included below for convenience. 

Direct download link:

http://vinuxvirtual.org.uk/lucid/Vinux-3.0-Virtual-Edition.exe

MD5Sum:

a4fe2abdfe76ba648eb405aa3b719386 *Vinux-3.0-Virtual-Edition.exe
Please provide feedback if you like using this edition of Vinux. As always, all feedback weather in relation to the virtual edition or 
the
website is welcome and greatly apreciated. please use the form on
the vinux
virtual website to leave feedback, or send feedback directly to the 
vinux
mailing list.

Thanks for reading!

Mo.



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