Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning

  • From: "Bob Kennedy" <intheshop@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:08:38 -0400

I do have a restore point but I'll just leave it along as long as we get along.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RicksPlace 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning


  Good Job Bob: That is not the most intuitive way to register a product and it 
is especially tough for screen reader users. Now, if you ever want to UnInstall 
that puppy make sure you either have taken a restore before you installed it, 
if you did you are in good shape, or, be very careful baout the UnInstall 
process. It has to be done in a particular order to remove the components and 
can be a serious problem if the UnInstall fails.
  Also, 2008 ties in with some Office modules that might be problematic if the 
Office Sql module is uninstalled. It is a real pain and at least 2 of us had to 
completely wipe our hard drives because of Failed UnInstalls to get things 
working again.
  Once you have that puppy running just leave it alone. It is extremely 
complicated to mess with.
  Rick USA
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bob Kennedy 
    To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:39 PM
    Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning


    In my case I'm familiar with registering when I have the product code on 
the package.  But I have got it to work tonight so it's a bit different this 
way but I have it now.

    Thanks
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: RicksPlace 
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:24 PM
      Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning


      If there are 3 of you guys who all can not seem to find the product key 
it makes me wonder what is going on. I assume you all installed Sql Server 
Express 2008 within the last 30 days and now are trying to register the 
product. Do any of you know how to register a product? I ask because the 
process I used, some time ago, was the same process as I have always used for 
registering CSharp, VB.net and other packages from Microsoft. I am wondering if 
it is that the process of registration is new to you guys and just really 
confusing or if there is something diferent about the process now. I registered 
CSharp 2008, byt the way 2010 is out already, just a few days ago and it worked 
exactly as it always has.
      That is why I ask if any of you are experienced at registering products 
enough to tell if something has changed or whether it is just a matter of the 
process being confusing and somewhat not screen reader friendly.
      Rick USA
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Adrian Beech 
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:11 PM
        Subject: RE: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning


        G'day Bob and others,

         

        Which download page are you referring too as I didn't spot anything on 
either of the basic and advanced package pages.  I too would be interested to 
know where to find the product key for SQLServer 2008 Express.  Perhaps a phone 
call to MS may be in order?

         

        Cheers.

        AB

         

         

        From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
        Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2010 6:41 AM
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning

         

        I can find the register now button, but I don't have a key.  I saw 
something on the download page about it so maybe I'll go back there this 
evening and click on the link.  

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: RicksPlace 

          To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:29 AM

          Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning

           

          Have you ever registered any other products? I ask because a popup 
comes up where you have to click on something, you are taken to a Microsoft 
Website where you fill out some stuff and click to register your product, then, 
on the Webpage it gives you a registration code where you copy it. Then you alt 
tab back to your popup that is still on your computer and paste the code into 
the text box and click the register button. You might even have had to have set 
up a password in the Microsoft page. This is all just from memory but I can dig 
into it more if you are not familiar withthe process. The first time you go 
through the registration process with a screen reader is a pain but it works 
even though it is a little confusing. If you need some help I will see if I can 
make a step by step. I know that I had to use the mouse keys, in windowyeyes, 
to click the Register Now button on the popup that asks for the registration 
key after clicking the register under the help menu.

          Rick USA

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Bob Kennedy 

            To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:06 PM

            Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning

             

            It looks like I got configuration tools and import and export data 
32 bit.  

             

            How do you get a product key.  I went to help and clicked on 
register and it expected me to already have a key.

             

            Thanks again

             

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: RicksPlace 

              To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

              Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 8:13 AM

              Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning

               

              Actually you don't open SqlServer like you do any other 
application. It is just something that runs on your computer. You use some 
tools to manage the Server and you connect to it from within a Application 
Program that you might write. But, you do not open it. When you download it you 
should have a folder entery added to your start menu like Microsoft Sql Server 
2008 Express or something. If you expand and cursor down the list of items you 
might see something like Configuration Manager, Management Studio and perhaps 
some other things. The Configuration Manager and Managment Studio are the 
things you click on to set properties or do things in your Server or any 
DataBases you build and add to your Server. Like Visual Studio the IDEs of the 
applications that you use are sometimes tricky to get around and use with a 
Screen Reader. Sql Server is a complicated Animal. There is a group of 
Professionals who usually work on diferent aspects of it. There are Database 
Administraters, Dabase Analysts and DataBase Programmers. The Administrators 
usually use the tools like the Configuration Manager, the Analysts might use 
the Management Studio. Programmers will use a language like Visual Basic or 
CSharp to work with a Sql Server Database. If your download and install went ok 
the server should be running whenever you have your computer turned on. What 
version did you download? I mean did you download Sql Server Express 2008 with 
Tools or with Advanced Options or which version? That will determine what 
applications are to be found in the Microsoft Sql Server 2008 folder in your 
Start Menu and what settings might have to be tweaked when you try to use it. 
Do not change anything yet until you know if the install went through ok. Also, 
I hope you made a Restore Point before you installed Sql Server. If your system 
is set up to do it automatically you can use that restore point to back out of 
that install if you have not changed or deleted any files or folders related to 
Sql Server if things go bad. Do not try and remove it manually without reading 
some articles on the steps to do that. Things need to be UnInstalled in a 
particular order and you might get into trouble if done incorrectly so be 
careful and don't change things unless you are sure what you are doing. 
Remember they pay DB Administrators and Analysts anywhere from $50,000 to 
upwards of 6 figures to do the stuff you are now playing with and they don't 
give them that money for nothing!

              Rick USA 

                ----- Original Message ----- 

                From: Bob Kennedy 

                To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:17 AM

                Subject: Re: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning

                 

                It seemed to install fine but I haven't opened it yet.  Are 
there things to watch for when opening it the first time?

                  ----- Original Message ----- 

                  From: RicksPlace 

                  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                  Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:27 AM

                  Subject: UnInstalling Sql Server Warning

                   

                  Hi: If you are thinking of UnInstalling or Installing Sql 
Server be very careful! If you have a problem with UnInstlling this software, 
and it has to be done in a particular way or it won't work, you can make it 
almost impossible to ReInstall and in the worst case you might have to 
ReInstall the OS to get VS and Sql Server to work properly. Ask on list about 
uninstalling that puppy unless you know how to do it!

                  Rick USA



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