O, I 4got--sometimes when you're programming determining alignment of output, e.g., text/graphics/controls can be a real hassle, e.g., it's hard 2 know if the form or interface or chart or whatever you're designing looks ok. But that has more 2 do w/the output than it does w/a compiler/debugger, so maybe that's not relevant 2 u. But it is a problem that we as blind programmers face, &, since u asked about that... Anyway, I just wanna say that I appreciate u as a sighted person taking an interest in the obstacles we as sight impaired programmers face. It isn't often that happens. Let me know privately if u feel I can do anything 2 help u. I've pretty much had 2 put programming aside in order 2 finish my computer forensics course, but I'll be taking it up again once it's done, hopefully 2 create some forensics software that's accessible 2 us, for a frickin change. My private email, as I think u already know, is: abletec@xxxxxxxxx On 10/13/07, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well, Andy, the problems differ between debugger & compiler. In a > compiler, obviously, the major problem is detecting what's being > flagged as an error condition & locating that information easily--the > latter being the operative word. > > In the debugger, you're really watching 2 things: a) what line you're > on in the code; & b) contents of variables. So knowing clearly what > line of code you're on as well as the contents of the variables you're > watching at each line of code execution is critical. > > All of these can take considerable time if the compiler isn't > configured to work w/the screenreader & sometimes even if it is. > > I don't know if that helps u any, but... > > On 10/13/07, Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hey folks, I'm working nowadays on writing tools that tightly > > integrate speech based audio into all sorts of areas in the compiler. > > Being a sighted user, however, I'm pretty naive about what the real > > needs and problems the blind programmer community has when interacting > > with programming environments. If you folks had to choose the top 3 > > most vexing problems you have, in your own personal experience, when > > programming, what would they be? What about when you are trying to > > find bugs, what are the three biggest issues then? > > > > Andy > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > > -- > Jackie McBride > Please sign the Yahoo Accessibility petition at: > <http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html> > & Check out my homepage at: > www.abletec.serverheaven.net > -- Jackie McBride Please sign the Yahoo Accessibility petition at: <http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html> & Check out my homepage at: www.abletec.serverheaven.net __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind