Re: The top three big problems

  • From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:25:47 -0400

Oh I doubt you forgot anything.

I am something of a amateur programmer is all, the sort who writes small 
solutions for computing problems I encounter in my real life.

Back in the days of DOS and CP/M all I had to learn was how to address the 
screen and the language syntax and programming concepts. That is the easy stuff 
these days of the IDE. I am sure it is easier for sighted people to point and 
click and drag a control here and click there to adjust the properties there 
but I am afraid I get lost in the interface long before I get any decent 
running code.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: The top three big problems


Good memory I guess... I am in VS2005 almost 50% of the day so have some
experience with it. Did I remember something wrong?



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:27 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The top three big problems


I want to know how you can possibly remember all those key strokes and the
sequence.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
DLeavens@xxxxxxx
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: The top three big problems


The below is easily possible in vs2005 at least. If you go into the
settings, under bu8ild options somewhere (I forgot exactly since I haven't
been there in a long time), there is a choice to allow the compiler to show
the error list/window upon build/compile failure. When you are in this list,
hitting enter on a error message actually instantly jumps you to the code
line where the error is and highlights it in a certain color. I know the
color doesn't help a total blind person, but at least jaws jumps to the
exact line being complained about. All you have to do now is hide the error
window (alt shift h), fix the line of code and then press f5/control f5/f6
to rebuild again...




2. The usability.

A programming environment should be made  thinking to the blind programmers 
needs also, and a blind programmer should be able to configure the 
environment as he wants.

For example, what does a sighted programmer after he runs a program in 
Eclipse or VS.net and it gives an error?
I think that he looks too se what was the error.
So, for the sighted programmer is easy to take a look in the wanted pane, 
but a blind programmer should be able to configure the application so after 
it runs the program and gives the error, the focus to be automaticly placed 
in the errors pane. And he should be able to move the focus to the code pane

immediately.

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