Re: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
- From: "R. Haynie" <rhaynie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:43:22 -0400
Sauro,
Well I noticed the same thing. I have not tried to determine if I can
change the display of "different" lines. But since I use a screen
reader that can announce the background and foreground colors at the
current position of my cursor, I get by with no problems.
Keep in mind as well that WinMerge treats a set of contiguous lines with
differences as 1 difference. So even though the status line might read
5 differences. the actual count of individual lines may be higher than 5.
So what I have been doing was to toggle back to the full view of the
file, move line by line and check the background and foreground. When
it changes, then I know I have reached the end of the group of lines
that made up that particular difference.
But since I know a lot about the code I am merging, once I see the first
line that starts the difference, I often remember what the difference
actually is before I read line by line. That is just a bonus in my case.
They may have options available to modify this for us, but I have not
had the opportunity to check yet.
-Rodney
Sauro Cesaretti wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried winmerge as well and it's really an interesting software.
> But unluckly, it seems that it indicates the differences between the two
> files with colors only.
> Did you find another way to show the differences?
>
> Thanks,
> Regards, Sauro
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R. Haynie
> Sent: mercoledì 1 luglio 2009 15.18
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
>
> Yes, in my post this morning I said I would be trying to download it again
> from SourceForge. Well this time SorceForge was up and allowed the
> download.
>
> I will be trying Jamal's edSharp again today. I tried it when he first
> released it a long while ago, for a quick minute.
>
> As far as the file comparison and merge... read on.
>
> winmerge can be obtained from:
> http://winmerge.org/
>
> I have to say winmerge is completely awesome and 99% accessible.
> Awesome help system, great documentation, hotkeys listed, plugins available.
> This free program was 100% exactly what I needed for the file comparison and
> merge process. No graphical interfaces that did not allow access.
> The comparison window allowed keyboard navigation and navigation in so many
> different ways. I knocked out a couple of my large files I had to do in no
> time at all. I could compare the files. Show only the differences. Change
> between the files. Toggle back to showing all lines so I could get a
> perspective of exactly where the change was in respect to the rest of the
> file. Merge the difference from left to right, or right to left. Navigate
> to next difference...
>
> All of the above using only keystrokes, and no virtual cursoring. I could
> even manually edit the files in the editor as I am comparing.
>
> I can not express how much this program will increase my productivity over
> the next couple weeks. So many of the other file comparison programs were
> only somewhat accessible or not accessible at all.
> Winmerge is it!
>
> This program is so extensible as well. The plugins allow you to do so much
> more and quite easily. Do you write C code? Well you compare source files,
> but not compare the commented lines. You can create patch files to give to
> others... Things as simple as that make winmerge the ultimate utility for me
> at this time.
>
> I hope to find the "perfect" editor as far as accessibility and
> functionality, focused on my needs, this week. So stay tuned and I'll post
> some comments on what I came up with. It is good to have a thread about
> this topic every year or so.
>
> -Rodney
>
> black ares wrote:
>
>> also, there is a utility named winmerge
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Homme, James"
>> <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:17 PM
>> Subject: RE: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
>>
>>
>> Hi Sauro,
>> For my lack of money, Jamal's EdSharp has replaced what I used to say
>> was the greatest editor on earth. Grab it at
>> http://www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe/. Here is a paragraph from
>> the documentation. Maybe it will help you.
>>
>> Two commands produce text in a new window after comparing sets of
>> lines. Lines above the cursor are considered the first set, and the
>> rest are considered the second. Use the List Different Items command,
>> Alt+Shift+L, to get lines that are in the first set but not the
>> second. Use the Query Common Items command,
>> Alt+Shift+Q, to get lines that are in both. These commands ignore
>> blank lines but are case sensitive.
>>
>> If that won't help you, maybe there would be a way to run the DOS fc
>> utility and bring the output into the editor. I think that could be
>> done with all the facilities at your disposal with EdSharp.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> J
>> im
>> ----------
>> Jim Homme
>> Usability Services
>> 412-544-1810
>> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim
>> Homme Sr.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R. Haynie
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:26 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
>>
>> Ok, this is something that has troubled me on and off for a while now.
>>
>> I am looking for a real good text editor preferably one a integrated
>> diff (file compare) utility. And it would be great if the diff had a
>> merge functionality.
>> I have been using UltraEdit for 6 or so years now. Occasionally the
>> editor will crash. I could not make a nice reproduceable situation of
>> when it crashes. The latest version of UE is no different.
>>
>> I took another look at Komodo Edit, but versin 5 does not seem to be
>> any more accessible with JAWS.
>>
>> Editor:
>> I use the editor for writing sql, php, python, csv files, viewing
>> logs, etc. I like code folding and function lists to quickly move
>> around in longer files.
>>
>> So I need sort of an Accessible Power Text Editor. I would not mind
>> paying for it, but it shouldn't crash on me like UE doing on both of
>> my boxes.
>>
>>
>> I'll be doing file comparisons and merging of changes over the next
>> few weeks. Other than that, I probably compare files once a month. I
>> am going to try out WinMerge, but Tuesday SourceForge would not allow
>> any downloads of that package (500 error), so I'll try Wednesday. If
>> that package is accessible, ten I the file compare be satisfied
>>
>>
>> Sina had a couple ideas, but he also suggested to hit the list up with
>> the question.
>>
>> -Rodney
>>
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