Can you folks try installing the JDK separately and seeing if that fixes the problem? Another thing to try would be in the folder you installed it (usually program files), go to sodbeans\etc\sodbeans.conf In that file there is a variable called jdk_home. If you set that variable to the path of your JDK install, does it still die? I'm heading on a plane to Washington State today, but we'll see if we can't reproduce this on the machines at the school on Sunday and try to figure out what to do about it. I'll have one of the programmers not going to Washington (We left one person on support duty) try to reproduce and fix this issue as well. Sorry about the growing pains, guys. We'll get this sorted out so you can try it soon enough, Stefik __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind