RE: Shell Scripting Info

  • From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26" <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:45:17 -0400

If the code works in mono and fails in dot net, please inform the relevant mono 
email list and provide relevant code so the bug or bugs you found can be 
squashed.  Earlier programming for dot net 2.0 was a good way to ensure cross 
platform compatibility since mono hadn't gone that far into the later dot net 
standards yet.  That may or may not still be the case.  Mono probably will get 
to work faster using nvda than jaws especially if other members of the windows 
mono development list also do python since they might be able to help out 
fixing the source code of nvda to work better with mono if they got interested 
enough to help out.  

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:54
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Shell Scripting Info

Actually there is a good reason for using it if you can.  Especially if you’re 
trying to create something you can use on the IPhone, Windows 7 and Linux and 
have it work the same.  What I would do is create it under mono and then when 
going to distribute for Windows I would test it with .net if it didn’t work 
under .net then to keep only one source rrepo you would have to use mono to 
keep it cross platform.  So what I am saying if I confused you with that is 
code everything under mono.  Then if it works in .net great if not use mono for 
cross platform reasons.

 

ken    

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:28 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Shell Scripting Info

 

*nod*, indeed. But there’s sort of no point to using that on windows, I’d wager?

 

Take care,

Sina

 

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:24 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Shell Scripting Info

 

I was absolutely referring to the Mono Dev environment with JAWS.  I installed 
it, and I couldn’t even touch the menu bar, never mind actually being able to 
create a project with it.  I’ll try it again and then give you more details.  

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:20 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Shell Scripting Info

 

As per http://www.mono-project.com/Supported_Platforms there is a Windows port 
of Mono, that might be what she's referring to.On 5/16/2011 10:15 PM, Sina 
Bahram wrote: 

You mean the .net development environment on windows? That actually works kind 
of amazingly well with Jaws. What exactly are you referring to?

 

And with regards to how Orca will handle that. Hmm, that’s an interesting one. 
I would have to do some research into that. I don’t think Mono is expressed via 
ATK, so I’m not sure it will read with Orca.

 

Take care,

Sina

 

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:06 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Shell Scripting Info

 

Okay.  Thanks for the info.  I wasn’t sure about that.  But one thing I know is 
that Open Suse has the Mono Framework in it by default, and accessibility wise, 
on windows, it doesn’t really work too well in terms of the dev environment, 
but how about accessibility with GTK# on linux?

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:51 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Shell Scripting Info

 

Katherine,

 

KDE is making some strong steps towards accessibility, but is hardly there yet. 
I wouldn’t bother at this time.

 

Take care,

Sina

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:38 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Shell Scripting Info

 

You could try it, gnome would be sluggish for you unless you have plenty of 
memory to spare, but I'm not sure. My problems may just be a Vinux issue 
though, because I ran a windows XP vm for testing for a while on the same 
system with the same amount of memory. I have not had the time to sit down and 
configure Linux+orca and gnome to see if it is in fact a Vinux issue though.
On 5/16/2011 1:31 PM, Katherine Moss wrote: 

This would be to explore both CLI and KDE or Gnome on Open Suse 11.  Do you 
still think it’s a good idea? 

  

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:56 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Shell Scripting Info 

  

If you're using cli, these friends don't know what they're talking 
about--virtual instances are just fine. Hell, there are enterprize level sites 
ran out of the cloud, which is *gasp* virtual. My servers are virtual instances 
on big boxes with tons and tons of ram, and they run perfectly. Now, if you 
want a GUI... At least for Vinux, virtual does "blow," because it's slow, laggy 
and painfully slow.
On 5/16/2011 12:44 PM, Katherine Moss wrote: 

Speaking of virtual, and sorry to get off topic, but I’m curious.  I plan to 
run a virtual instance of Open Suse from Novell on my laptop using VMware 
player starting this summer.  I want to get acquainted with the Unix 
environment just for the heck of it, but two of my friends say that virtual 
instances of any Linux distro don’t work very well and that they “blow”.  What 
do you have to say about that?  Do you agree or disagree?  I ask because I want 
this to be a cool experience rather than a waste of my time.  Thanks.  

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:36 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Shell Scripting Info 

  

Hi Storm, 

Very cool. What does someone need to take the class? I have Vinux Virtual on my 
machine at home. 

  

Jim 

  

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Storm Dragon
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 1:28 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Shell Scripting Info 

  

Hi,
It looks good. The only thing is, although you mension the Vinux Project you do 
not make it a link. It should link to:
http://www.vinuxproject.org/
Also, if you would like another bash resource I have been teaching a class in a 
new Vinux experiment called Vinux Classes. It's an irc chat room set up 
specifically for teaching Vinux related classes. All the classes are logged and 
are located at:
http://classroom.vinuxproject.org/
Thanks
Storm 

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On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 07:42 -0400, Homme, James wrote: 

Hi,

I took the liberty to add the information Don provided about Bash scripting to 
http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org./content/what-programming-languages-are-most-useful-linux.
 Would someone please check this page for accuracy?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

Jim Homme,

Usability Services,

Phone: 412-544-1810.

  

          

        
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