RE: SharpDevelop 4.0 not accessible, what can be done about it?

  • From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:01:53 -0500

What I mean is that the developers of the software could probably use a
crash course in accessibility for the blind by blind individuals.  That's
what I meant.  And I feel that as the leader of a blindness advocacy
organization, I feel that I should get as many people as possible to give
that run-through, but I tried to talk to them via the forums, and nothing
came out of it.  Not with just me at least.  

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:16 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SharpDevelop 4.0 not accessible, what can be done about it?

Who is this "folken" you keep mentioning?  am I missing something?
It's late at night ... Is this a group of som sort?

alex M

On 12/14/10, Katherine Moss <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think it does, but I don't think Eclipse is fully featured for that 
> language, is it?  And isn't it true that not only does visual studio 
> come at the full featured version with all of the languages supported, 
> but isn't it true that you can buy the versions with single language 
> support but still in the professional range?  And have any of you 
> taken a look at the code for SharpDevelop to see if any quick 
> modifications can be made to it to make it a bit more accessible?  I 
> was always under the impression that all software can be accessible 
> with the right folken joining in, right?  Or could the problem be one of
it's larger components, such as the editor for example?
> That can really cause issues if the code of that is not available, right?
> Fill me in.  Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex 
> Midence
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:56 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: SharpDevelop 4.0 not accessible, what can be done about it?
>
> They have to want to do it.  Only way they'd be convinced is if 
> someone ported some code or gave them pointers on how to do it.  If it 
> turns out that the've busted it up enough that they'd have to do a ton 
> of work to get it accessible, it's a losing battle.  They don't get paid,
after all.
> Doesn't Eclipse have a c# plugin?
>
> Alex M
>
> On 12/14/10, Katherine Moss <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Yes, but are you saying that there's nothing we can do about this?
>> Won't a few of us on here at least try to have a conversation with 
>> the Sharpdevelop folken?  I ask this because if that program can do a 
>> lot of what VS2010 can do, and you run into somebody who can't afford 
>> VS2010, then it'd be a fine choice for them, and blind individuals 
>> wouldn't be limited.  I don't like limitations, and I like to see 
>> especially open source individuals put more emphasis on accessibility.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black 
>> ares
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 3:29 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: SharpDevelop 4.0 not accessible, what can be done about it?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using visual studio express editio n2008 which is available 
>> still on microsoft's website
>>
>> and I have done a lot of things with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Katherine Moss <mailto:plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:05 AM
>>
>> Subject: RE: SharpDevelop 4.0 not accessible, what can be done about it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it was.  In some of it's ancient versions.  But with downgrading 
>> comes feature degradation, so considering it's an open source 
>> project, I'm hoping that I can rally a bunch of you guys to talk to 
>> the developers and then to maybe join it?  I would if my programming 
>> skills were stronger, but unfortunately, I'd only botch everything if 
>> I did that.  As the leader of a blindness advocacy group (see my last 
>> post for our web site), I'm asking a favor.  30 or 40 people is 
>> better than one.  The editor that the project uses is called Avalon 
>> editor, and that's where the issue is, as well as in the dialog 
>> boxes.  I like visual studio 2010, but what about for computers that 
>> can't handle it,
> like my aging and out of date desktop for instance?
>> And what about for those folken who can't afford it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Katherine
>>
>>
>>
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black 
>> ares
>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 11:55 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: SharpDevelop 4.0 not accessible, what can be done about it?
>>
>>
>>
>> was sharp develop ever accessible?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Katherine Moss <mailto:plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 9:23 PM
>>
>> Subject: SharpDevelop 4.0 not accessible, what can be done about it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi there folks,
>>
>> I've talked to the developers of SharpDevelop regarding accessibility 
>> with screen readers in the latest version, and they say that they 
>> have too much on their plate to worry about it.  I was pretty strong 
>> in my reply back saying that if they weren't going to do it, then 
>> I'll get somebody who would.  Has anyone else here downloaded that 
>> and looked at the apalling things they've done to it?  Just curious.
Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Katherine
>>
>>
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