Looks like I'm coming late to this thread, and I'll admit I haven't read everyone's comments yet (I've been swamped submitting papers and with teaching duties). We would certainly be willing to let any such effort use any and all of our tools, or to advise bill or others in whatever way folks found helpful. Just in case people don't know as well, my lab has begun teaching programming at the Washington State School for the Blind this semester, using Sodbeans/Hop, etc, and teachers are writing to us that things are going great. So I'm personally highly encouraged that others want to get more blind folks involved in computer science education. Anyway, for what it's worth (maybe nothing), that's my two cents, Stefik P.S. If anyone cares, Sodbeans 2.0 is coming out in July. Linux support, a rewrite of our text-to-speech engine that will now also be available separately on sourceforge outside of Sodbeans for others to use, lots of little audio hints to turn those visual features into aural features, new changes to Hop which our studies are showing makes it easy to understand,new Hop language features like exceptions, a new auditory tutorial system that teaches how to use Sodbeans and programming, and a gadzooks of bug fixes. Anyway, lots of fun stuff happening. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Andreas may also have some interesting perspective on this given his work in > developing teaching tools and curriculum for programmers at schools for the > blind. > > Jamal > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind