he can give you an URL, or you can go to my grab bag site to get any of Jamal's creations, smile.
take care, inthane. For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and Links to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com. to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Lafond" <Eileen.Lafond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: SayAll in EdSharp with JAWS 9 beta Hi, Jamal, Where do I go to download Ed Sharp? Thanks, Eileen La Fond Phone (206) 386-0011 e.mail Eileen.LaFond@xxxxxxxxxxx
Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> 11/17/2007 4:03 AM >>>
As you may know, EdSharp http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/edsetup.exe is an editor that attempts to maximize productivity by screen reader users, levering the best of my programming skills and experience so far. EdSharp is a text editor, word processor, HTML writer, coding environment, and file converter, developed in the C# language and based on the .NET 2.0 Framework. JAWS 9, which many of us use, is in public beta, so this is an opportune time to make a difference in its development. With the current version, I encountered a problem that's quite concerning. It happened with a previous JAWS beta once before, and I was hoping that improved stability since then would have eliminated it in the latest beta. Not so, unfortunately. A SayAll in a large file (not huge, about 1 meg) seemed to be going fine. After a few pages, EdSharp stopped. I tried to examine the text, thinking there might be a lot of white space that confused JAWS. JAWS would not respond with SayLine or any other key. Instead, the text seemed to continue scrolling without speech. I tried Control+Home to get back to the top of the document, but this did not work either. I Alt+Tabbed away and then returned, but still the same problem. Eventually, after working in another application, I returned to EdSharp and found JAWS responsive to commands there. Not surprisingly, I had lost my place. When I found it via a search, however, I did not find anything unusual in the document at the point where the SayAll went crazy. If you get a chance, I'm curious whether this happens to you. It may not happen until after a few screens of reading, so pick something that you'd find useful reading anyway! If you experience a similar problem, please try to report it ASAP via the JAWS beta report form at http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/jawsbetareport.asp Rumors are that Freedom Scientific is getting ready to release the official JAWS 9.0, and I really want long standing issues with SayAll in large documents to be fixed. I have reported them myself, but every voice helps, particularly so that Freedom Scientific knows there are JAWS users of a product besides its developer! Another SayAll problem is noticeable when JAWS is set to "read by line without pauses" in the EdSharp.jcf configuration file. This is the default setting for JAWS SayAll, but a user alerted me to the fact that JAWS repeats text in a large document. Accordingly, I have made "read by sentence" the current setting in EdSharp.jcf, but that is not optimal for other reasons, including the apparent instability mentioned above. To check whether reading by line causes repeated text for you, go to the SayAll options dialog in JAWS configuration Manager. Unfortunately, other SayAll issues remain with TextPal http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/palsetup.exe where JAWS either fails to start reading or has long pauses in a SayAll of a large document. Thanks for whatever you can do to advocate with Freedom Scientific about this and any other compatibility issues you may have discovered with applications I have developed. They are meant to maximize productivity by blind users, and there are limits to what I can do without reasonable cooperation by the major screen readers. Getting JAWS to behave properly with common Windows controls used by these applications should help improve JAWS generally. By design, I avoid unusual, custom controls and generally try to accomplish all user interface interaction with common ones that should be well understood by screen readers, especially since they implement Microsoft Active Accessibility. Regards, Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
