Rebolalright, noticed all there flair and hype, but I didn't try to download and run it, I'll get there tutorial so I can truthfully say I tried it and it was inaccessible, and give them a hopeful chat up. laters inthane . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and Links to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at: http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at: http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Perry To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: RE: Rebol If you go to their tutorial they tell you to download their View application it works like a Java applet browser but from what the web pages say is much more powerful. The problem for us though is it is not accessible. What is worse their install program is not even accessible for me to make sure of that . I am betting we could use the server side stuff but I am not even sure of that because I can't get it to install. It is a whole new way of programming or so they say but while they have had millions of people download it and supposedly have a large following we can't access it. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Thomas Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:46 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Rebol Hi Ken: Went to the site and did not understand the technology, beyond this old gray head. What would you recommend I e-mail them to help focus their attention on your prior contacts with them. Rick Farmington Mich. USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Perry To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:22 AM Subject: Rebol I think its important that the blind community drop this group an email. I recently tried to download and use this environment and its not accessible at all. http://www.rebol.com Ken