RE: Real-world coding examples?

  • From: Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:54:03 +0000

I think they are above that speed.  But why does that matter necessarily?  
Though maybe not because I had my web content running on one of my external 
drives I have plugged into here.  

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode - Forums
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:00 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?

I'm running my own servers at home.
I'm hosting my own domain which is lode.is (on my web server running at home) + 
my server is a official time server (my server is a member of pool.ntp.org) I 
have a very fast and reliable Internet connection with static IP.
60/60 Mbit/S fiber connection.
Very nice indeed :)
But still no content on my web domain yet though...
I installed and configured it just for fun and learning.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: 19. mai 2011 17:37
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?

That should handle your server but I am hoping your drives are higher than 7200 
speed and the bus on your mother board is also above par.

 

ken

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:26 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?

 

My system is better than average though.  I have a Dell Enterprise-class T110 
PowerEdge Server with a Xeon X3430 processor running at 2.8 GHZ, with two hard 
drives in the unit with a raid 1 redundancy.  My line stays up like there’s no 
tomorrow, and I have Verizon Fios, so I don’t think that there’s a problem 
there.  And it is just a community site, but I know that any potential 
difficulties there are, I’ll get through them.  I’ll use zoneedit or no-ip.org 
with the plus variant for DNS hosting for now till I can get a static IP, and 
then when I do, I’ll host my own DNS server on the same server as everything 
else.  

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:57 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?

 

I self hosted for more than 10 years.  I moved to Amazon because I was moving 
and no longer wanted to keep it in my house.  Currently there are three of us 
here where I work that self host and have no trouble.  There are some keys to 
doing it though. 

 

1)       You need a better than average system.  One of my co-workers runs his 
own voice over IP company and has more than 15,000 users.  He has been running 
it on an older Pentium dual cpu system but he has very good hard drives and bus 
which makes all the difference when hosting for multiple users.  Again he is 
hosting this business in his basement and having no trouble.

2)       

You need a good service provider that is going to give you good service..  this 
can cost especially if you start getting in the tera bit of data transfer.  If 
your just doing this as a hobby though its only important to have a line that 
doesn’t go down every second day.

 

I like my new Amazon server though because it’s a lot easier for me to move 
around and I have never stay in one place longer than 8 years hmm for that 
matter that 8 years was the longest I ever stayed in one place and I used to 
have to drag my whole system along and re-set it up.  That’s not a problem 
anymore when I moved from  Canada to the states no one on the game server ever 
knew.  

 

Don’t be discouraged from self hosting but there are a lot of options out there 
that are as good or better than self hosting and  in the long run cheaper.  
Security is one thing though that you might want to take into account.  The 
friend of mine that is running the voice over IP service had a lot of accounts 
hacked when he ran it on a fly by night hosting service.  So he figures once 
bitten twice shy even though most services out there are pretty secure right 
now.  Just realize that the easiest way to break a server is to have a console 
to it.  Of course servers like Amazon and others are probably more secure being 
that someone could climb in your window and walk off with your whole business 
which did happen to me back in the BBS days when I ran one of those.

 

Anyway I just wanted to ramble a bit about this topic since it’s something I 
have done for a while.

 

Ken 

 

 

 

 

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:00 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?

 

Do you recommend it if it’s your goal?  This is my personal goal, not business, 
not a contract, just something I want to do.  I don’t care how hard it is for 
my life interest is doing this.  

 

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:55 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?

 

I definitely do not recommend self-hosting.  There are a myriad of VPS packages 
out there to meet just about anyone's budget.

 

That being said, you can use services like EveryDNS.net to handle your DNS 
entries for you.  This means you would only need a single static IP into your 
home, as you don't have to host the DNS server yourself.

 

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On 2011-05-19, at 1:38 AM, black ares wrote:

 

The connection argue is pointless.

Because the your customer conenction can be slow and then, even if you pay a 
top host, the site will move as you host it from home.

In real business this things is shown face to face on a laptop fuly configured 
to be abole to run your examples and your developing.

More over, when you work in we b development, the customer buy for his site 
some hosting and you, most of the time, will work there, because the developing 
of an website is not only a one time work, you work, you upload, you get 
feetback, you modify, you upload and so on.

This also help the customer to have a site until it is finished.

So fuly developing a site including all aspects can take even a Year, but your 
customer must be able to use his site from the first month of developing.

 

And why not using dyndns...

no-ip.info is not a bad name.

Also, according to customer, I use ip addresses to show them examples.

I have bought an asus wl500gp v2 router and with it I've got an dyndns asus 
account

some thing .like www.myname.asuscomm.com.

 

 

        ----- Original Message -----

        From: Littlefield, Tyler <mailto:tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

        Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:31 PM

        Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?

         

        On another point, I'm not really sure what the dell power thingy has to 
do with it; there are other problems that you get from running from home that 
you don't generally have to deal with on a vps, or even renting dedicated:
        Any hardware that crashes is yours to replace. If something blows up in 
Linode, they replace it and short of a few minutes of downtime, I don't really 
need to care.
        If you want to show sites to customers, you don't really want to host 
from home because of connection issues for one. Second, you will need to use 
some sort of dns setup, and the idea of DNS is to remain redundant, so you need 
to set up name servers in two different locations, or at least with two 
different addresses, if you want to use a domain name. This means that you not 
only need one static IP (which you have to pay extra for most of the time), but 
you will need 2, which probably will require you go get a business account, 
which just makes the whole "host from home for free," point rather pointless. 
You can use dyndns, but I really don't want to say "hey you customer, come 
check out your site at mysite.kicks-ass.net or mysite.dyndns.org."
        On 5/18/2011 2:26 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:

        >Oops.  Sorry.  I think it’s my ownership of a Dell PowerEdge T110 
getting to me.    
        Must be, if you're buying Dell. I have a system here I leave running 
for dev that hosts Linux servers, but I really don't care to go out and get a 
system just to run windows 2008. seven works good, and there are people to host 
or just IIS on Seven now that I"m using it for testing.
        On 5/18/2011 2:14 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:

        Oops.  Sorry.  I think it’s my ownership of a Dell PowerEdge T110 
getting to me. 

         

        From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfLittlefield, Tyler
        Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:12 PM
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?

         

        >You folks should learn to host yourselves.  You save so much money in 
the end.    
        If it were as easy as hosting from home, that wouldn't be a problem. AS 
it is, if I wanted to host myself I'd need a better connection, and I'd need a 
server capable of handling everything that doesn't go down when my ISP decides 
to play with the internet lines... Also, my windows box moves around. I'm not 
exactly going to be able to host anything on a box that moves all the time.
        On 5/18/2011 2:09 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:

        You folks should learn to host yourselves.  You save so much money in 
the end. 

         

        From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfJacques Bosch
        Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:58 AM
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?

         

        I have used Forte Hosting for ASP.Net MVC with success.
        http://www.fortehosting.com/

        On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM, DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 
26 <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

        http://www.java2s.com/ has a unit on asp though I can't vouch for that 
material since I never tried it out.

        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler

        Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:55
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?
        
        For what it's worth, I just did some digging to see what I could come up
        with again. I looked first at vps, which run between $40 and $300/m+. It
        might be worth noting that I have two linux servers for $20 per, for the
        price of one. (the servers are virtual). So I started looking at shared
        hosting, and the cheapesst I found was $30. I found a lot cheaper, $5,
        $10, $15... But given the grammar issues on the site, it sort of looks
        like some high-school student got a crack for server 2008 and is running
        something out of his garage; I'd guess by the website he's failing
        English, too. I would like to learn ASP.net, if nothing else just for
        the experience. Anyone got some open space I could play with? I'd be
        willing to pay if it were reasonable. Even better, does anyone happen to
        know of any shared hosting solutions that are within a reasonable price?
        On 5/17/2011 11:32 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
        > I've not seen any windows hosts for asp.net. I'd love to find a cheap
        > one, but... it's not happening--php is cheaper. Lots of businesses
        > still use PHP, but a huge number use asp, too.
        > On 5/17/2011 11:28 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
        >> Cool.
        >>
        >> FWIW, this side of the world, it's still a little different unless
        >> you want to host internationally, but I would, myself prefer not to
        >> with ASP.Net etc., but anyway - not arguing with you, but it's a fact
        >> this side.
        >>
        >> Stay well
        >>
        >> Jacob Kruger
        >> Blind Biker
        >> Skype: BlindZA
        >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
        >>
        >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Moss"
        >> <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
        >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:18 AM
        >> Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?
        >>
        >>
        >>> Not really.  I plan to host myself.  And for now, I have very good
        >>> hosting, and since I'm the accessibility advisor to the Mojo Portal
        >>> project, I get a couple of extra favors.  I7Media's cheap regardless
        >>> of which technology you use, it's the same price.
        >>>
        >>> ---/-Original Message-----
        >>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob
        >>> Kruger
        >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:02 AM
        >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >>> Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?
        >>>
        >>> Only real issue there is hosting is going to be a lot easier to
        >>> find/cheaper if you use PHP etc.
        >>>
        >>> Stay well
        >>>
        >>> Jacob Kruger
        >>> Blind Biker
        >>> Skype: BlindZA
        >>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
        >>>
        >>> ----- Original Message -----
        >>> From: "Katherine Moss" <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
        >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:24 AM
        >>> Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>> I'm just curious, which game is it?  I'm qorry for getting off
        >>>> topic. But
        >>>> in terms of web development, lots of sites use PHP, but ASP.net
        >>>> wouldn't
        >>>> hurt either.
        >>>>
        >>>> -----Original Message-----
        >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
        >>>> Littlefield,
        >>>> Tyler
        >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:22 PM
        >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >>>> Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?
        >>>>
        >>>> Hello:
        >>>> Thanks for your advice, though a console based game doesn't really
        >>>> get me
        >>>> out of that domain, and I honestly can't think of where that would
        >>>> apply.
        >>>> I want to work on projects that I can show as part of my portfolio,
        >>>> and
        >>>> I've already got a text-based game.
        >>>>
        >>>> On 5/17/2011 4:03 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
        >>>>> Hi,
        >>>>> I think some console games would be a good starting point - or, if
        >>>>> you
        >>>>> wish, perhaps writing some online tutorial on cpp would be nice
        >>>>> too. I
        >>>>> personally plan to finish the cpp tutorial I've started on my blog
        >>>>> and
        >>>>> go onto data structures and perhaps write some console-based data
        >>>>> structs emulators for tutorial purposes.
        >>>>> As for web development or other things, if you have Xroid or other
        >>>>> smartphones with you, I think writing programs for phones would be
        >>>>> good (that's my intention too later).
        >>>>> Cheers,
        >>>>> Joseph
        >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
        >>>>> From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >>>>> To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date
        >>>>> sent:
        >>>>> Tue, 17 May 2011 15:48:59 -0600
        >>>>> Subject: Real-world coding examples?
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Hello all:
        >>>>> While I have 3 months or so off, I wanted to learn as much as I 
could
        >>>>> during that time.
        >>>>> I know I'm fairly good with c++, and my skills are so-so in 
python,
        >>>>> but I want to start working out of the domain of mud development. 
I'm
        >>>>> pretty good at figureing things out and adding new features and 
the
        >>>>> like, but I really highly doubt I'm going to make my living as a 
mud
        >>>>> developer.
        >> <>>
        >>>>> So, I have a couple of questions. I want to get into web 
development
        >>>>> more, c#, and more. What is most used? What kinds of
        >>>>> problems/programs
        >>>>> are people being hired to work on? I know that's a rather broad
        >>>>> question, I'm just trying to find some sort of starting point 
that I
        >>>>> can keep learning more, so I'm not totally clueless.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> --
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Take care,
        >>>>> Ty
        >>>>> my website:
        >>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
        >>>>> my blog:
        >>>>> http://tds-solutions.net/blog
        >>>>> skype: st8amnd127
        >>>>> 밣rogrammers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and
        >>>>> better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to 
create
        >>>>> bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning.  밒f
        >>>>> Java had
        >>>>> true garbage collection,"most programs would delete themselves 
upon
        >>>>> execution.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> __________
        >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
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        >>>>>
        >>>>> __________
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        >>>>
        >>>>
        >>>> --
        >>>>
        >>>> Take care,
        >>>> Ty
        >>>> my website:
        >>>> http://tds-solutionq.net
        >>>> my blog:
        >>>> http://tds-solutions.net/blog
        >>>> skype: st8amnd127
        >>>> “Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and
        >>>> better
        >>>> idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger
        >>>> and
        >>>> better idiots.  So far the Universe is winning.”
        >>>> “If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete
        >>>> themselves upon execution.”
        >>>>
        >>>> __________
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        --
        
        Take care,
        Ty
        my website:
        http://tds-solutions.net
        my blog:
        http://tds-solutions.net/blog
        skype: st8amnd127
        “Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and 
better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and 
better
        idiots.  So far the Universe is winning.”
        “If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete 
themselves upon execution.”
        
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        --   
           
        Take care,  
        Ty  
        my website:  
        http://tds-solutions.net  
        my blog:  
        http://tds-solutions.net/blog  
        skype: st8amnd127  
        My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features!  

         

        -- 
         
        Take care,
        Ty
        my website:
        http://tds-solutions.net
        my blog:
        http://tds-solutions.net/blog
        skype: st8amnd127
        My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features!

         

        -- 
         
        Take care,
        Ty
        my website:
        http://tds-solutions.net
        my blog:
        http://tds-solutions.net/blog
        skype: st8amnd127
        My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features!

 

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