Re: Real-world coding examples?

  • From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:38:00 +0300

The connection argue is pointless.
Because the your customer conenction can be slow and then, even if you pay a 
top host, the site will move as you host it from home.
In real business this things is shown face to face on a laptop fuly configured 
to be abole to run your examples and your developing.
More over, when you work in we b development, the customer buy for his site 
some hosting and you, most of the time, will work there, because the developing 
of an website is not only a one time work, you work, you upload, you get 
feetback, you modify, you upload and so on.
This also help the customer to have a site until it is finished.
So fuly developing a site including all aspects can take even a Year, but your 
customer must be able to use his site from the first month of developing.

And why not using dyndns...
no-ip.info is not a bad name.
Also, according to customer, I use ip addresses to show them examples.
I have bought an asus wl500gp v2 router and with it I've got an dyndns asus 
account
some thing .like www.myname.asuscomm.com.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Littlefield, Tyler 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?


  On another point, I'm not really sure what the dell power thingy has to do 
with it; there are other problems that you get from running from home that you 
don't generally have to deal with on a vps, or even renting dedicated:
  Any hardware that crashes is yours to replace. If something blows up in 
Linode, they replace it and short of a few minutes of downtime, I don't really 
need to care.
  If you want to show sites to customers, you don't really want to host from 
home because of connection issues for one. Second, you will need to use some 
sort of dns setup, and the idea of DNS is to remain redundant, so you need to 
set up name servers in two different locations, or at least with two different 
addresses, if you want to use a domain name. This means that you not only need 
one static IP (which you have to pay extra for most of the time), but you will 
need 2, which probably will require you go get a business account, which just 
makes the whole "host from home for free," point rather pointless. You can use 
dyndns, but I really don't want to say "hey you customer, come check out your 
site at mysite.kicks-ass.net or mysite.dyndns.org."
  On 5/18/2011 2:26 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: 
    >Oops.  Sorry.  I think it’s my ownership of a Dell PowerEdge T110 getting 
to me.    
    Must be, if you're buying Dell. I have a system here I leave running for 
dev that hosts Linux servers, but I really don't care to go out and get a 
system just to run windows 2008. seven works good, and there are people to host 
or just IIS on Seven now that I"m using it for testing.
    On 5/18/2011 2:14 PM, Katherine Moss wrote: 
      Oops.  Sorry.  I think it’s my ownership of a Dell PowerEdge T110 getting 
to me.  

        

      From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
      Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:12 PM
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples? 

       

      >You folks should learn to host yourselves.  You save so much money in 
the end.    
      If it were as easy as hosting from home, that wouldn't be a problem. AS 
it is, if I wanted to host myself I'd need a better connection, and I'd need a 
server capable of handling everything that doesn't go down when my ISP decides 
to play with the internet lines... Also, my windows box moves around. I'm not 
exactly going to be able to host anything on a box that moves all the time.
      On 5/18/2011 2:09 PM, Katherine Moss wrote: 

      You folks should learn to host yourselves.  You save so much money in the 
end.  

       

      From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacques Bosch
      Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:58 AM
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples? 

       

      I have used Forte Hosting for ASP.Net MVC with success.
      http://www.fortehosting.com/ 

      On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM, DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26 
<jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> wrote: 

      http://www.java2s.com/ has a unit on asp though I can't vouch for that 
material since I never tried it out. 


      -----Original Message-----
      From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler 

      Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:55
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?

      For what it's worth, I just did some digging to see what I could come up
      with again. I looked first at vps, which run between $40 and $300/m+. It
      might be worth noting that I have two linux servers for $20 per, for the
      price of one. (the servers are virtual). So I started looking at shared
      hosting, and the cheapesst I found was $30. I found a lot cheaper, $5,
      $10, $15... But given the grammar issues on the site, it sort of looks
      like some high-school student got a crack for server 2008 and is running
      something out of his garage; I'd guess by the website he's failing
      English, too. I would like to learn ASP.net, if nothing else just for
      the experience. Anyone got some open space I could play with? I'd be
      willing to pay if it were reasonable. Even better, does anyone happen to
      know of any shared hosting solutions that are within a reasonable price?
      On 5/17/2011 11:32 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
      > I've not seen any windows hosts for asp.net. I'd love to find a cheap
      > one, but... it's not happening--php is cheaper. Lots of businesses
      > still use PHP, but a huge number use asp, too.
      > On 5/17/2011 11:28 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
      >> Cool.
      >>
      >> FWIW, this side of the world, it's still a little different unless
      >> you want to host internationally, but I would, myself prefer not to
      >> with ASP.Net etc., but anyway - not arguing with you, but it's a fact
      >> this side.
      >>
      >> Stay well
      >>
      >> Jacob Kruger
      >> Blind Biker
      >> Skype: BlindZA
      >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Moss"
      >> <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
      >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:18 AM
      >> Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?
      >>
      >>
      >>> Not really.  I plan to host myself.  And for now, I have very good
      >>> hosting, and since I'm the accessibility advisor to the Mojo Portal
      >>> project, I get a couple of extra favors.  I7Media's cheap regardless
      >>> of which technology you use, it's the same price.
      >>>
      >>> ---/-Original Message-----
      >>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      >>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob
      >>> Kruger
      >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:02 AM
      >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      >>> Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?
      >>>
      >>> Only real issue there is hosting is going to be a lot easier to
      >>> find/cheaper if you use PHP etc.
      >>>
      >>> Stay well
      >>>
      >>> Jacob Kruger
      >>> Blind Biker
      >>> Skype: BlindZA
      >>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
      >>>
      >>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>> From: "Katherine Moss" <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
      >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:24 AM
      >>> Subject: RE: Real-world coding examples?
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> I'm just curious, which game is it?  I'm qorry for getting off
      >>>> topic. But
      >>>> in terms of web development, lots of sites use PHP, but ASP.net
      >>>> wouldn't
      >>>> hurt either.
      >>>>
      >>>> -----Original Message-----
      >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
      >>>> Littlefield,
      >>>> Tyler
      >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:22 PM
      >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      >>>> Subject: Re: Real-world coding examples?
      >>>>
      >>>> Hello:
      >>>> Thanks for your advice, though a console based game doesn't really
      >>>> get me
      >>>> out of that domain, and I honestly can't think of where that would
      >>>> apply.
      >>>> I want to work on projects that I can show as part of my portfolio,
      >>>> and
      >>>> I've already got a text-based game.
      >>>>
      >>>> On 5/17/2011 4:03 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
      >>>>> Hi,
      >>>>> I think some console games would be a good starting point - or, if
      >>>>> you
      >>>>> wish, perhaps writing some online tutorial on cpp would be nice
      >>>>> too. I
      >>>>> personally plan to finish the cpp tutorial I've started on my blog
      >>>>> and
      >>>>> go onto data structures and perhaps write some console-based data
      >>>>> structs emulators for tutorial purposes.
      >>>>> As for web development or other things, if you have Xroid or other
      >>>>> smartphones with you, I think writing programs for phones would be
      >>>>> good (that's my intention too later).
      >>>>> Cheers,
      >>>>> Joseph
      >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>>>> From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      >>>>> To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date
      >>>>> sent:
      >>>>> Tue, 17 May 2011 15:48:59 -0600
      >>>>> Subject: Real-world coding examples?
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Hello all:
      >>>>> While I have 3 months or so off, I wanted to learn as much as I 
could
      >>>>> during that time.
      >>>>> I know I'm fairly good with c++, and my skills are so-so in python,
      >>>>> but I want to start working out of the domain of mud development. 
I'm
      >>>>> pretty good at figureing things out and adding new features and the
      >>>>> like, but I really highly doubt I'm going to make my living as a mud
      >>>>> developer.
      >> <>>
      >>>>> So, I have a couple of questions. I want to get into web development
      >>>>> more, c#, and more. What is most used? What kinds of
      >>>>> problems/programs
      >>>>> are people being hired to work on? I know that's a rather broad
      >>>>> question, I'm just trying to find some sort of starting point that I
      >>>>> can keep learning more, so I'm not totally clueless.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> --
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Take care,
      >>>>> Ty
      >>>>> my website:
      >>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
      >>>>> my blog:
      >>>>> http://tds-solutions.net/blog
      >>>>> skype: st8amnd127
      >>>>> 밣rogrammers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and
      >>>>> better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create
      >>>>> bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning.  밒f
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      >>>>
      >>>> --
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      >>>> Take care,
      >>>> Ty
      >>>> my website:
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      >>>> better
      >>>> idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger
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      Take care,
      Ty
      my website:
      http://tds-solutions.net
      my blog:
      http://tds-solutions.net/blog
      skype: st8amnd127
      “Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better 
idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better
      idiots.  So far the Universe is winning.”
      “If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete 
themselves upon execution.”

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Take care,
Ty
my website:
http://tds-solutions.net
my blog:
http://tds-solutions.net/blog
skype: st8amnd127
My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features!


-- 

Take care,
Ty
my website:
http://tds-solutions.net
my blog:
http://tds-solutions.net/blog
skype: st8amnd127
My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features!

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