RE: Python editors

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:54:50 -0400

Hi Alex,
Yes. Go into EdSharp.jcf and change it there.

Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:08 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Python editors

Ah, I found it and was able to change the indentation table to use a
single space instead of two. Now, is there a way to always have
indentation set to identify in the jaws options? Whenever I move away
from the window and back into it, my settings are set back to
defaults, which is no good because I am always popping in and out of
the window to run code at the command line, open other files, and so
on.

On 7/22/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> I don't know where EdSharp puts it, because I already had a version of it
> before I donated it. I think that it might get installed in your JAWS user
> enu directory.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Homme,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Python editors
>
> Sorry, where do I find it? Could I modify it to work on increments of
> one space, instead of two? Sounds like this might work out...
>
> On 7/22/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>> I donated a JAWS indentation scheme that comes with Python. It plays a
>> different piano note for each increment of two spaces up to 8 levels of
>> indentation, not including the left margin. All you have to do is put it
>> in
>> your scripts user directory and use the settings packager to get it hooked
>> up. Then you can use it. It works great for Python. If you read someone
>> elses code, just change their indentation with a global search and replace
>> to two spaces, then change back, or leave it the way it is and remember
>> what
>> you need to remember to understand how it's working.
>>
>> Jim
>> Jim Homme,
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:26 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Python editors
>>
>> I am quite used to pure python, as you put it. Currently, I use
>> edsharp to write my code, manually indenting. I gave up on pybrace
>> because having two sets of files, and therefore two sets of prompts to
>> go through when trying to close, got frustrating and I found that
>> things went faster if I just wrote the python to begin with and fought
>> with indenting. If I have to check indentation, though, things get
>> difficult, especially if I am looking at someone else's code. I find
>> that most people, including myself, use spaces to indent rather than
>> tabs, so edsharp always reports an indentation level of 0. I use
>> spaces because jaws speaks both blank lines and tabs as "blank" when
>> reading character by character, whereas spaces are spoken as "space",
>> allowing me to tell what is an indent and what is a hard return when
>> reading character by character.
>>
>> On 7/22/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> I encourage you to stick with EdSharp, drop using PyBrace, and get used
>>> to
>>> dealing with the indentation. Either use a JAWS indentation scheme or the
>>> EdSharp ability to tell you the indent level. Also investigate the
>>> EdSharp
>>> commands that have to do with blocks of code. I really think you will be
>>> more happy in EdSharp than you will with a whole new editor. And if you
>>> get
>>> used to coding in pure Python, you won't forget to put the colons in.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Jim Homme,
>>> Usability Services,
>>> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:06 AM
>>> To: programmingblind
>>> Subject: Python editors
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am wondering if there is an accessible editor specifically for
>>> Python? Edsharp's pydent/pybrace are good, but they mean you have to
>>> manage two sets of files, so if you misplace even one brace, you will
>>> freeze Edsharp.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if there is an editor that will auto-indent as you
>>> type, maybe with navigation features to move to the next highest
>>> block, or by a given block (function by function, for example)? I have
>>> never come across one, but I could have missed it...
>>>
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