RE: Project Management:

  • From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:51:33 -0400


If I remember correctly, there is a verbosity setting for indentation level
in the old Project scripts.

When I worked at FS, I had to pound the conference room table and shout a
lot to get anything involving MS Project added to the feature list for a
JAWS release.  My primary thesis was that blind people who want to get
promotions will need such software and, if JAWS doesn't support it, users
may not have the tools to move up to the next level.

After a while, I started losing this battle to the "What software will 90%
of our users want?"  The ninety percent rule has taken JAWS from the
vanguard of application support to an IE and Office access program and,
sadly, those of us who need high end professional tools have two options:
find a sightie to take files we make in Excel and put the data into Project
or write our own scripts based on those that ship with JAWS to better
support MS Project.  

MS Project, based on my memory of the evaluation we did a number of years
back, has a fairly verbose DOM and making a nice set of scripts for the
table views (tasks, resources and a few others) shouldn't be too hard if
someone or group of people want to take a crack at it.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sérgio Neves
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 12:03 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Project Management:

Talking about ms project 2003, does anyone know how to know the indentation 
level of one cell (or one line, I don't know) with jaws? For example: I have

one task with subtasks and these subtasks must be indented.
I indent them with alt+shift+rightarrow key, but when there are many 
children and children of these, I don't know their indentation level.


Best regards

Sérgio Neves
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim" <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Project Management:

Hi Charles,
If you are using JAW 9, Tell freedomscientific about this using feedback
form for the public beta. In the mean time, I would go back to Project 2003.
The screen reader support is not perfect, but the software is usable.

Take back your shopping life at

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Blind Programming" <ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:09 PM
Subject: Project Management:

I am currently learning Microsoft Project 2007.  I am having the following
issues and concerns:

1.  When I click on the tools, options button, the program just blows up.

2.  When trying to link tasks and trying to change the type of link using a
couple of different methods, the program blows up.

I'm not sure what other problems there are.  I am currently using Microsoft
project 2007 but am considering returning to Microsoft Project 2003, or even
earlier.  I understand that support was put in for Microsoft Project 2000
but have been unable to find it.  Does anyone know where I might get the
tutorial for the Microsoft Project 2000 where it may be helpful while trying
to use 2007.


Charles Black
4127 Pinehaven Ct.
Columbia, SC 29205
Phone: (803) 790-5586
Cell: (803) 873-1698

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