Huh? -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rodney Haynie Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 10:17 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle database facilities and screen readers Adrian, Firsthand accounts of an applications accessibility in my mind is perfect, especially when the application's use fits into the subject of this email list. I don't condone flaming, just honest first hand accounts. This is nothing but what one person has found on their use of the product. I benefitted from hearing about Toad, since just this past weekend I downloaded and tried out the free Toad Mysql client. I did not have any better results and am still seeking an avenue of communication with Toad to see what can be done. Thanks for listening. -Rodney -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Beech Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:26 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle database facilities and screen readers G'day Gerry, If I recall right Oracle's Enterprise Manager web based GUI required the modification of an attribute in one of the XML config files to make it "more" accessible. A long time back I remember doing this and find that it actually made a difference then thinking afterwards how silly it was to force people to explicity turn accessibility on... if I find the docs which highlight this aspect I'll pass it along. BTW, which version of Oracle are you trying to use? BTW, as for Toad and other offerings like SQLDeveloper, hmmmmm... as this is a public forum I'll refrain from posting a comment regarding accessibility on the grounds someone might get really (and I mean really) upset. Cheers. AB -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerard Ellis Sent: Sunday, 25 January 2009 6:19 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Oracle database facilities and screen readers Hi, I have recently tried both Toad and Enterprise Manager and could not get around the gui. I have given up for now, but would be delighted to hear from anyone who has had more success than I had. SQLPlus is accessible, but the output from a Select wraps around if the result is greater than the width of the screen. Even my sighted work colleagues say it is virtually impossible to interpret the output when this happens. If you read the web sites of the makers of all of the above they will say that their software is accessible. They even have documents describing their VPATs, which are voluntary adherence to accessibility standards. Where is the independent verification???? Take Care, Gerry Ellis Dublin, Ireland If you don't know where you're going, How will you know when you get there? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Oracle database facilities and screen readers >I access Oracle using sqlplus which is a command line client. It is >accessible although it is not as friendly as mysql client for MySQL. > > Octavian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "blind programming" <ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:15 PM > Subject: Oracle database facilities and screen readers > > >> Hi all, >> >> Is there anyone out there using a screen reader and doing Oracle DBA work >> successfully? I have heard from Oracle that their courses and tools are >> considered accessible. I am considering moving into that arena but >> wanted to see if anyone else had been successful with a screen reader or >> not. >> >> Thanks. >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ NOD32 3796 (20090124) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ NOD32 3805 (20090127) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind