Re: On databases again - front ends

  • From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:27:08 -0700

it was the php one, my admin that you pointed me to, but having the names of both is a good thing, smile.


thanks,
inthane
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: On databases again - front ends


The php based one or the application based one?

The php based one is called PhP MyAdmin and the application one is SQL yogg,
I believe.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:53 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: On databases again - front ends

Sina pointed me to an interface client for mysql a while back,
unfortunately, I lost it in my data crash, and haven't needed it recently so
haven't asked him what it was again.

ya might want to rattle his cage for it

inthane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:34 AM
Subject: RE: On databases again - front ends


Thanks for the link I will check it out.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of public.niran
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:02 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: On databases again - front ends

1. Here is a link which describes how to create mdb files in .net.

http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_database/microsoftaccess/article.php/c5149
/
2. An intranet will be faster than internet for sure.

Niran
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: On databases again - front ends




Well I agree that using the command line client for geeks like us is the
best.  Unfortunately I have 3 projects 1 for my wife's business (highest
priority), one for fun (second highest ), and one for work (I will get it
done when they pay me well enough).  The problem is the users that will
be
using this are not geeks like us.  Well not counting my wife.  She still
is
not a Database or coding geek but that is neither here nor there.  The
problem comes in when you go to make the interface for people to use the
database you create.  For those of you out there tell me if I am wrong
with
the following assumption.

Access is accessible as long as I stick to wizard designed forms which
really limits what I want to do.  It can be made accessible with any of
the
screen readers that are scriptable but so far jaws is the only one back
as
far as 3.5 so that one is out for now unless I want to do all the
scripting
which I might end up doing.

No other database has an instant GUI designer that is accessible so my
choices are two.  Write the code in something like C++, VB, C# or have a
web or C#, VB, or C++  interface to something like Mysql or PostGreSql.
With those choices in mind and if I missed one please tell me but anyway
with those in mind I have some questions.

I have been looking at the DataSet and it seems to look like if I use an
Access database which is required in one of my projects I will have to
create the tables in Access if I want to save them to an MDB.  Is this
correct?  I see all kinds of functions to read and manipulate the Access
databases but nothing to actually create the Database.  It seems I have
to
attach to the database then I can create tables using the DataSet is this
right or am I missing some function to open a new one.

If I decide on the other hand to go with a  web interface for the two
that
do not have to be in Access and hopefully can convince work that things
do
not have to be in Microsoft products to be worth something.  If the
Database
and the web interface are on the same intra net rather than the inter net
is
the page refreshes much faster?  The reason I am asking is because some
of
the dialogs I am creating need to be some what active content for example
as
a person goes through a list view it needs to update what's on the
details
portion of the view.  I know there is Ajax but if I can just use simple
web
that will be much better. Not to mention work has a lot of different
disabilities and I want to keep what ever interface I end up making as
accessible to all as possible which means Java is out for now.

Well in short what I am really looking for is the best advice to making a visually appealing database as well as making the coding of it as easy as possible. What makes me ill is Access is perfect for all these tasks but
unfortunately Access don't stand for Access.

Ken



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
Rasnita
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:17 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: On databases again - front ends

Both MySQL and PostgreSQL have an accessible command line client. The
command line client is the best because you can do anything with it.

Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina" <gena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:45 AM
Subject: On databases again - front ends


Hi


I wondered whether anyone knew of an accessible front end for mysql or
postgresql? I've been asked to develop a database for a charity and was
looking for a front end.  I think we're sticking with a web interface
via
php.  But I entertained the idea of navicat.  Navicat was dropped
because
I
couldn't get any speech out of it at all.  Thus I wondered what others
had
found.

Gena

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