thank you Sina, , I was hoping that some decent aid could be rendered to him, between you Jim and a few others, maybe we can get this goodmen something of what he needs!
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To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "'Andreas Stefik'" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: RE: Number of folks on the list
This is getting ridiculous. Here's the deal ... I have the past 50,000 posts to this list, all the way bcak to yahoo groups.I'll write a program to determine the unique number of senders, and send italong. Truely, this community sometimes deserves receiving 0 to little help, ifthis is how its members react when a researcher, and a rather heartfelt andinteligent one at that, is trying to assist. Andreas, contact me off list, and we'll run some metrics. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:59 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Number of folks on the listThe biggest reason you won't find any stats on blind programers in the USA,is because the government determent info on disability, sex, religion and anything dealing with personal information. To be a evasion of privacy and have stated such in the constitution. Just like this list, not all are totally blind. Therefor not all on this list would use the tools others would. Some only need magnification where others need screen readers and some do better with braille. At 05:14 PM 10/19/2007, you wrote:Exactly, mathew, in order to make a case to a government funding agency that our research lab should be given any funding at all, we need to be able to demonstrate that working on programming tools for blind computer programmers is something researchers should bother to do. The team I work with thinks the problems blind programmers must, inherently, face are pretty fascinating, but we have to convince the rest of the community to deny funding from other projects and divert it to ours. Funding is always a difficult case to make. Basic community statistics would be helpful. Since the major organizations, apparently world wide, don't seem to keep any kind of statistics on blind computer programmers, as far as they report to me at least, the best we can do is reference a popular blind programmer mailing list. If no stats are available for the list, or they cannot be revealed without giving away information that is truly private, that's totally reasonable, but it seems like a perfectly reasonable question to ask. Andy __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblindTim trouble "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: //www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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