you can do that, but your not going to come up with a number that is useable. Because only about 25 or less are active posters. the real list number is going to have to come from Jim list owner. its not the fact that we can't help much. its the fact that there are no real stats on what he is asking. For what he wants, contacting all the blind lists and asking for blind programmers that work or just dabble is what he basically going to have to do.
At 11:12 AM 10/20/2007, you wrote:
This is getting ridiculous. Here's the deal ... I have the past 50,000 posts to this list, all the way bcak to yahoo groups. I'll write a program to determine the unique number of senders, and send it along. Truely, this community sometimes deserves receiving 0 to little help, if this is how its members react when a researcher, and a rather heartfelt and inteligent one at that, is trying to assist. Andreas, contact me off list, and we'll run some metrics. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:59 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Number of folks on the list The biggest reason you won't find any stats on blind programers in the USA, is because the government determent info on disability, sex, religion and anything dealing with personal information. To be a evasion of privacy and have stated such in the constitution. Just like this list, not all are totally blind. Therefor not all on this list would use the tools others would. Some only need magnification where others need screen readers and some do better with braille. At 05:14 PM 10/19/2007, you wrote: >Exactly, mathew, in order to make a case to a government funding agency >that our research lab should be given any funding at all, we need to be >able to demonstrate that working on programming tools for blind >computer programmers is something researchers should bother to do. The >team I work with thinks the problems blind programmers must, >inherently, face are pretty fascinating, but we have to convince the >rest of the community to deny funding from other projects and divert it >to ours. Funding is always a difficult case to make. Basic community >statistics would be helpful. > >Since the major organizations, apparently world wide, don't seem to >keep any kind of statistics on blind computer programmers, as far as >they report to me at least, the best we can do is reference a popular >blind programmer mailing list. > >If no stats are available for the list, or they cannot be revealed >without giving away information that is truly private, that's totally >reasonable, but it seems like a perfectly reasonable question to ask. > >Andy >__________ >View the list's information and change your settings at >//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind Tim trouble "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: //www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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