Thanks! I found that the .NET Framework SDK already includes a C# compiler (csc.exe). Csc.exe is a command line tool, fine by me. So I'll stick with EdSharp for now. I've just written and compiled my first C# program! It's a console app that just puts Hello, World! On the command line. I assume that the .NET Framework also includes a debugger, but I'll look for it when I need it. I don't write buggy code, so what the hell do I need a debugger for? Hehe :) -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 1. mai 2010 13:43 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: New programmer To me, it's not a stupid approach, however with Visual Studio you have everything you need to compile and debug code as well, whereas with a text editor that's all you get; a text editor, nothing else. Just my £0.02 worth. Chris Hallsworth E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 On 01/05/2010 12:23, Øyvind Lode wrote: > Hi > > What's the main advantages of using a IDE like Visual Studio? > I thought of just starting out coding in my favorite text editor EdSharp. > Is that a stupid approach? > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace > Sent: 30. april 2010 23:57 > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: New programmer > > Thanks Chris. It is usable but not clean. > It is what it is unless I ever script it. > Rick USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "chris hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: New programmer > > >> No I was using JAWS at the time. No workaround as far as I knew solved it. >> >> >> Chris Hallsworth >> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx >> Skype: chrishallsworth7266 >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 >> >> On 30/04/2010 22:27, RicksPlace wrote: >>> Hay Chris: Are you running Windoweyes? I have a tough time with >>> Intellisense reading too much and even reading what I had typed on the >>> TextEditer line. Is that the same problem you were having? If so let me >>> know how you worked around it. It is annoying. >>> Rick USA >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth" >>> <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:20 PM >>> Subject: Re: New programmer >>> >>> >>>> Hi, I used Visual C# Express 2008, which is very accessible. There are >>>> issues with the intellisense feature, but worked around the problem. >>>> The Express editions of Visual Studio uses language-independent IDEs, >>>> whereas Professional and higher use one IDE for all languages. >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Hallsworth >>>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266 >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 >>>> >>>> On 30/04/2010 19:14, Øyvind Lode wrote: >>>>> Thanks all! >>>>> Chris: >>>>> Is Visual C# Express Edition accessible out of the box? >>>>> And what's the difference between Visual Studio Express, Visual C# >>>>> Express? >>>>> Is it just that Visual C# is only a C# IDE and Visual Studio is a >>>>> complete >>>>> IDE for C, C++, C#, F# etc? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris >>>>> hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 30. april 2010 19:44 >>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: Re: New programmer >>>>> >>>>> I would go for C# as it's very similar to java in terms of program >>>>> structure. When I told my professors at university that I couldn't use >>>>> Java natively, that's what they suggested; c#. I used the Visual C# >>>>> Express Edition for my programming assignments. Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Hallsworth >>>>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266 >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 >>>>> >>>>> On 30/04/2010 16:13, Øyvind Lode wrote: >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to learn to program. >>>>>> I'm not quite sure what to dive into yet. >>>>>> I think I want to focus on desktop application development on Windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which language do you recommend? >>>>>> C, C++, C#, F#, Ruby, Python, Java etc? >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently I'm leaning towards C# or Java. >>>>>> I don't know why though :) >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm a Jaws user and EdSharp is my text editor of choice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>>> >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >>> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind