Another thing they specifically mention better support for is IE9, but let's see...<smile> Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: RicksPlace To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: New jaws 12 - they specifically mention support for VS.Net 2010 Hi Jacob: Ya, check that puppy out! I tried WindowEyes 7.5 with VB.net 2010 Express. I found some things accessible but others not very accessible and some really bad. The same things that were bad in the VS 2008 version were bad in the 2010 version and there were additional problems not encountered in 2008. I did not get around to messing with wpf since I could not even get the error window to read anything except the error category headings - no error lines could be read. So, using any editors that use the error window, I think all of them, was out. WindowEyes had the same problems with embedded controls in some DataGridViews that it had in 2008, the Forms and other designers did not seem to be very accessible if at all and generally I don't think it is ready for prime time. I will dig into it another time if I decide to try and script it but it sounds like JAWS is doing pretty well if they live up to their claims. Rick USA