no, the way is the one presented, letting the owner of the websites do their sites accessible.
Not to stay and find work arounds to enter their sites.Some websites owner complained about wevisium and that they are not agree with using it. More over, as I noticed you need some kind of invitation to make a webvisium account. More over, webvisium works only on firefox, but if I am using internet explorer... So the solution is, any time I want to access a web site and I can not, I write to the owner presenting to him the facts and possible solutions.
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To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 6:53 AM Subject: Re: New List for Programmers and Developers
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1"ah, you can do that, let change something to do it impossible".No, I don't think there are many big organizations that change things to make it impossible for us to view capcias. The idea presented here was a valid one. Rather than sitting here and complaining about it, we have a solution that -is- usable. And as far as I know, m$, google, yahoo and all the other hated capcia-using sites haven't changed the site so it's impossible. They've added audio capcias, too. These aren't great, but when you can see them, neither are the images. If you have a better solution to present the solution that capcias do that is accessible, I'd love to hear it. On 10/9/2010 9:35 PM, black ares wrote:because this is not the way to go on? We must force them make that captcha or any kind of information accessible, not to spend time to find workarounds every moment to every new problem that arises. Because as soon as you find a workaround and they will know about it, they simply will say, "oh, right, you have the posibility to use it, we don't need do to nothing anymore", or, more better: "ah, you can do that, let change something to do it impossible". This is th reason I don't use webvisium and I write in every individual ocasion I can not use a site to the owners.----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:10 PM Subject: Re: New List for Programmers and Developersall you guys are smart enuff, why don't you have firefox and webvisum as a backup or start with it when you know you will have to fill out a form to register? Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: New List for Programmers and DevelopersReally? I have had an awful time with google audio captcha. Maybe it's because I wear hearing aids??? I have spent ridiculous amounts of time before calling in a sighted family member to do the graphic version. Oh, and the numbers/letters are different in characters for some reason. Perhaps this is to prevent using both to figure something out??? Anyway, what is your trick for getting past the captcha on google? Thx. --le----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hofstader" <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: New List for Programmers and Developers I have found that Google's audio captia system works pretty well as it doesn't require that you type all of the characters it speaks but, rather, will accept a subset if they are in the correct order. I discovered this by accident but tried a few more times and verified I was correct in this guess. I don't know how many of the characters are necessary to meet their threshhold for acceptance but someone can probably interpolate and find out if interested. cdh On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote:Yep, because MS doesn't use capcia or require you to do odd things when you want to sign up. </sarcasm> On 10/9/2010 8:17 AM, RicksPlace wrote:Oh well, went to the sign up page and Google wants me to have an accountand requires a captia ythingy so screw it. The same old same old whengoing outside MS based environments, sigh. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: New List for Programmers and DevelopersHi Guys: JAVA eh. I am peeking at the new wp7 development environment, Visual Studio stuff which sounds familiar but involves Silverlight andXNA stuff that I have not worked with. I mighght take a peek at that new Android list to see what accessibil development environment and tools are used but so far I have not heard of anything as accessibleas the Visual Studio Environment for applying several technicals to one application which all work together without too much fudging around with compatibility and accessibility issues.Anyway, it's worth a peek so i guess I'll sign up for a little whileto see what the guys are talking about. My guess is that that environment will be frought with software and accessibility issues based on JAVA, Google and other non coordinated software and development environments when compared to staying in Visual Studio and i'ts integrated development environment.. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oriol Gómez" <ogomez.s92@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:02 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: New List for Programmers and DevelopersI just joined, even though I have an iPhone. I'm a programmer, and I'dlike to see how people are doing things with android. I hear it usesjava. On 10/9/10, black ares <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I wonder how many blind android programers are out there. It seems that a lot of non-android people will get there only to see what is written there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: New List for Programmers and DevelopersAnother programming list? why not just do it here? On 10/8/2010 2:52 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:Begin forwarded message:From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: October 8, 2010 4:43:02 PM EDT To: <eyes-free@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: New List for Programmers and Developers Reply-To: eyes-free@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hello. I have created a new group for topics pertaining to programming and developing for Android. 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