Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases

  • From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:48:13 -0400

I just downloaded FileDir yesterday, the default sort order seems to be most recent folders at the top. I guess this amounts to reverse date order. I think you are used to alphabetical sort order. To switch to this sort order, press Shift + A. Not sure why all of your files and folders are not showinng. Try to use the up, left, and right keys as well as the down key to see what files and fpolders are there.


I really like the Shift + F command to send to my FTP Server! The find files using regular expressions will make life easier as well. The more I force myself to use this program, the more useful, no indespensible, I will find it!

Don Marang

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From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:57 PM
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases

Hello Jamal and listers,

   No it's still not showing all files in folders particularly in those
with a large amount of files. I tried your suggestions and the view didn't
changed. I compared the file view in File DIR with that of My Computer. They
display properly in My Computer but not in File DIR. They're listed with
random filenames beginning with a particular letter and are out of order.
Perhaps a "List All Files in Folder" option could be added to correct this
problem. I tried it again while writing this note but got the same results.
Please investigate further.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases


FileDir shows all file extensions and all files.  One or more symbols
after the file name indicate attributes:  \ for a folder, ) for hidden,
] for read-only, and } for system.  The keys corresponding to the same
symbols may be used to change attributes.  For example, pressing ( when
a hidden file has focus removes that attribute.

Jamal
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, qubit
wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:45:17 -0500
From: qubit <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases

What I was thinking of are the view settings in folder options -- like
whether to display file extensions, hidden files, details, etc.
I'm one who likes to display everything -- I even change the registry to
unhide system file extensions.
So what all can I get displayed with FileDir?
Thanks
--le

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases


Hi Laura,
I don't know what appearance changes you mean.  EdSharp does not change
general Windows settings.  It has its own appearance, which is different
than Windows Explorer.

By default, FileDir does not replace Windows Explorer; it is another
application that may be launched to manage files and folders. There is an
option (not the default) to make FileDir open instead of Windows Explorer
whenever one tries to open a folder.  For example, if you download a file
in IE, there is a button for opening the folder into which the file was
placed.  Windows Explorer is still on the computer, but not the program
that opens if one explicitly chooses this option (a shortcut in the
FileDir program group of the Windows Start Menu).

That is the only "gotcha" that comes to mind, and as mentioned, it is not
a default setting -- nor an irreversible one.  Let me know if there are
more questions.  Thanks for your interest.

Jamal

On Mon, 12
Apr 2010, qubit wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:42:46 -0500
From: qubit <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases

Hi Jamal --
A while back I tried FileDir and it changed the appearance of things,
naturally. I don't remember much what I did with it, but I stopped using
it
at the time as I was in a hurry to do some things and didn't have time
then
to read the manual, and didn't know how to do some basic operations.  So
it
is helpful to have the manual upfront.
A few questions: Does it honor the view settings I have in the folder
options?  Or does it have its own view options that are different?
Does it replace WE (that windows explorer, not window eyes) in displaying
all folders, such as the desktop?
Are they any other gotchas to watch for?
I look forward to using it eventually as I love the feature set as
described
in your announcements.
--le




----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases


If anyone would like to browse the documentation of these applications
before deciding whether to install them, I have now made their manuals
separately available as follows:

EdSharp
http://EmpowermentZone.com/EdSharp.htm

FileDir
http://EmpowermentZone.com/FileDir.htm

Jamal

On 4/11/2010 11:44 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
Where can I find a write up on these programs?  Sounds like interesting
programs.

Thanks,
Dennis Brown

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: New Ed Sharp and File-Dir Releases


I forgot to answer the FileDir question. By default, all files should
be shown, though this may be changed with the Filter command,
Control+F. I forget what the default sort order is but there are
hotkeys to change it, e.g., Alt+A for Alpha order, Alt+D for date/time
order, Alt+S for size order, and Alt+T for type/extension order.
Adding a Shift modifer key reverses the order, e.g., Alt+Shift+S is
reverse size order, so the largest file appears first. Subfolders are
listed before files. If there are several subfolders, you can press
Alt+B to jump to the beginning file in the list.

Jamal


On 4/11/2010 9:47 AM, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
Hi Peter,
I think the ghost lines problem is a JAWS one. Plese report a
reproduceable example to Freedom Scientific. I think it can happen in
any text editor (the problem has been confirmed on this list). If I
suspect JAWS is incorrectly reading a line, usually up and then down
arrowing will fix the problem in the JAWS off screen model. NVDA
probably does not have this problem because it gets text in real time
from the RichText API, rather than using an OSM.

Currently, only data CDs can be burned. If I find a free library for
doing audio CDs or DVDs, I'll try to add such support.

Jamal


On 4/10/2010 6:57 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:
Hello Jamal and everyone,
I upgraded both applications and find that they work very well.
There are
several things I'd like to see addressed in future upgrades. In Ed
Sharp I'm
seeing what I'll call "Ghost lines" when editing text and Web pages.
These
get very annoying. I've deleted some of these ghost text
lines/strings
only
to discover that the original line of text I entered was also
removed.
We're
using Windows XP SP2 on an HP Pavillian PC with JAWS 11.0. I hope
this
information will help you troubleshoot this issue.

Second in File Dir I've noticed that the program tends not to list
all
of the files in a folder. Is there a setting I need to change to
correct
this. I was viewing my "Oldies" folder that has a huge amount of
files in
it. When scrolling through the file list I'm not seeing files listed
sequentially one after another. For example I'll see a filename
beginning
with the letter "A." One would believe that all files beginning with
that
letter would follow. Instead they're followed by other files listed
randumly. When viewing files in a folder I want to see them all
listed
sequentially. How do I fix this or will this issue need further
investigation?

Concerning the CD burner does one have the ability to burn either
audio
or data CDS? If so great. Otherwise I'd like to see the ability to
select
the type of CD one wishes to burn such as audio and drive image CDS,
and
DVDS added in future upgrades.

Thanks again for these great products.

Peter Donahue

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