Re: Microsoft Active Accessibility
- From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:21:01 -0400
Hi,
You said:
"> Unless they coded more MSAA into jaws. it does very little with it.
The sad part is a lot of programs have accessible features built in, but
jaws refuses to use them as in MSAA and with vista as a whole. They like
to reinvent the wheel."
Could you clarify that statement? What about ValueChangedEvent,
ActiveItemChangedEvent, ObjStateChangedEvent, MenuModeEvent, etc.? Go
through the script function list and look at the many MSAA-related functions
JAWS has.
After scripting for FS for several years, I can tell you that MSAA is what
we looked for first whenever scripting an application.
Many applications add it in as a token gesture of compliance, but not as a
serious effort at accessibility, and never tie in the value changes with
events; never update the data when focus changes; rarely update states when
states change; rarely tie data to events when that data is not the focused
window, such as in status lines; etc.
With Vista, tracking highlights is not a viable option, given that a mirror
driver is in use and highlight isn't static, especially across applications,
so MSAA is heavily relied upon by all screen readers. JAWS has moved to
relying more on MSAA than ever before, trying to get away from OSM-based
data retrieval, because of Vista's complexities, so I respectfully correct
you on that statement that JAWS doesn't use it and they want to reinvent the
wheel.
FS may be a lot of things, but business-stupid isn't one of them. Failing
to take advantage of MSAA would be a bad business decision, to say the
least.
Thanks,
Dennis Brown
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft Active Accessibility
Unless they coded more MSAA into jaws. it does very little with it.
The sad part is a lot of programs have accessible features built in, but
jaws refuses to use them as in MSAA and with vista as a whole. They like
to reinvent the wheel.
At 04:37 AM 4/15/2008, you wrote:
Hello,
I use Jaws 8 with my braille display.
For my job, I am working about a Microsoft software application which must
be accessible so I use Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA).
I've looked for about Jaws and AccessibleEvents but I haven't found
anything. Could you tell me, please, which events are taken in account
with Jaws and Jaws behavior for these events.
In addition, in my MSAA's implementation, I've implemented the
"Navigate()" method but I never run it navigating with my braille display.
Using "Microsoft Active Accessibility Object Inspector" my colleague can
run it. Is Jaws able to run the MSAA's Navigate() method. If Jaws is able
to use it, could you tell me more about?
Best regards.
Coraline Richet.
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