RE: Maybe I'm Not Such An Old Dog

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:13:31 -0400

Hi Don,
And two more for the list: Control + K, duplicate current tab. Control + T, 
Open a new, blank tab. I need to collect these. I don't know why I couldn't 
find the ones you sent in IE8 help.

Jim

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:05 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Maybe I'm Not Such An Old Dog

Generally, I agree that the webpage designer should not open a link in a new 
window.  I used to use the concept of opening external links in a new window.  
I think this is done most of the time to keep users on your site.  I have 
thought it was a good idea in a few cases for a group of links and used the 
target= attribute and had a message before the group that it would be opened in 
a new window.  If the target= attribute is deprecated, what is the new 
mechanism?  Have they removed this capability altogether?

As a user, I use Tab browsing all of the time!  Here are the hotkeys available 
for IE.  I am fairly sure they all work the same for Firefox.
Enter -   open link
Shift + Enter -   open link in new window
Control + Enter -   open link in new tab in background
Control + Shift + Enter -   open link in new tab in foreground
Control + Shift + q -   open context menu near address bar of tabs
Control + F4 -    close tab

When reviewing News Articles in an RSS feed, I will use Control + Enter to open 
the link in a new tab in the background.  Then I can continue to review all of 
the articles before reading each article of interest.  When done reading the 
article or any tab, press Control + F4 to close the tab.  I typically use 
Control + Shift when opening a link on the same topic, where I need to return 
to that location on the current page.  I use Shift + Enter to open links 
relating to a different topic, so it remains separate.

Don Marang
Vinux Software Development Coordinator - 
vinuxproject.org<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real 
substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on 
things that matter.
-- Dean Kamen

On 7/20/2011 8:48 AM, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
In general, I prefer opening a page in a new tab unless I am sure that I do not 
want to return to the current page.  In that way, I can press Control+F4 in IE 
(or Control+W in Firefox) to close the new page and return to the previous one, 
without that page having to reload -- dpending on the HTML and cache settings, 
that often happens, which takes time and may lose one's position on the page.  
With IE, press Shift+Enter to open the current page link in a new tab.  With 
Firefox, use Control+Enter.

Jamal

On 7/20/2011 8:26 AM, Homme, James wrote:

Hi Laura,

Yes. I want to know before I hit Enter if it's going to open a new page
in the same tab, or a new page in another tab, because I want to know
whether I'm goint to press Alt Left Arrow to get back, or Control F4 to
close the tab to get back. Usually, though, I try Alt Left, and if that
doesn't' work, Control F4.

Jim

*From:*programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *qubit
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:08 AM
*To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* Re: Maybe I'm Not Such An Old Dog

do you mean you want to know before you follow that link? Jaws announces
a new tab or a new browser window after you click on the link. Is that
good enough?

--le

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    *To:*Homme, James 
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    *Sent:*Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:50 AM

    *Subject:*Maybe I'm Not Such An Old Dog

    Hi,

    I know that popping open new browser windows is against
    accessibility guidelines, but I'm beginning to re-think my aversion
    to doing that, partly because I like the new way browsers open
    windows. I like tabs. I also like that when I return to the previous
    tab, I'm exactly where I left off reading. Recently, with more
    dynamic pages, it has become more and more unreliable to use the
    back button to get back to where I was. I'm even experimenting with
    opening links in a separate browser window on purpose. I'd still
    like to know, though, if a link is about to open in a separate
    window, even if it's for informational reasons. JAWS does a good
    job, though, of telling me that a new tab has opened.

    Jim Homme,

    Usability Services,

    Phone: 412-544-1810.

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