Hi: I find the web getting quite dynamic and WE is having some trouble keeping up. I don't know if your problems are WE related or whether they are related to the new dynamic controls most Websites are starting to use. WE has always had trouble with MultiSelection lists and Comboboxes ( actually DropDown Boxes). There are the new Ajax controls that I've heard are problematic and everyone is using now. Finally, many sites make heavy use of custom JavaScript for dynamic changes to the page after it's displayed and that can pose some problems. The new web is going to be a challange for ScreenReader developers. But, as you say, perhaps you just tipped something. With IE 7 I am finding some pages will lock up my computer, some just display a blank page, some will read only with the mouse and other problems I hope will get resolved when WE picks up the Accessibility hooks based on the new Web Accessibility Standards. Sometimes you can refresh a page and pick up some controls that do not work the way you might expect or display data you know should be there but isn't. My guess is that WE is going to be working hard on the Web portion of it's interface in the future, after getting general scripting set up. There already rumblings from the Blind Programmers about WE Com Scripting perhaps being the way to go. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Perry To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: RE: Makefile question I used your make file and a simple hello.h and hello.c and I had to set the libs and the linkflags to blank because I am not using all those libraries but the rest of this make file worked fine with the borland make. I will go fix my path so it points at my Microsoft Make and try again. Note when I cleared the linkflags and lib I cleared the incromental link maybe that is causing you the problem. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephen S. Disbrow Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:55 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Makefile question Hi, It says there's an error when linking, but I run the Makefile a second time without making any changes to the code and the link works the second time that's the problem.----- Steve D. --- Original Message ----- From: tribble To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Makefile question Because you have an error linking hello.obj. Look at the line where you compile hello.c --le ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen S. Disbrow To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: Makefile question Hi, Why isn't this Makefile compiling and linking in one run? In the first run only Hello.obj is created, and the second run the link works. Why isn't the Makefile running both actions. I'm using C++ 2005 Express, and the 2003 platform SDK *** Makefile *** cc=cl.exe link=link.exe LINKFLAGS=/INCREMENTAL:NO /NOLOGO -subsystem:windows,5.01 LIBS=kernel32.lib cap.lib ws2_32.lib mswsock.lib advapi32.lib bufferoverflowu.lib user32.lib gdi32.lib comdlg32.lib winspool.lib all: Hello.Exe Hello.Obj: Hello.c Hello.h $(cc) /WX Hello.c Hello.Exe: Hello.Obj $(link) $(LINKFLAGS) -out:Hello.Exe Hello.Obj $(LIBS) *** First run *** c:\nmake Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 7.00.8882 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1988-2000. All rights reserved. cl.exe /WX Hello.c Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.42 for 80x86 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Hello.c Microsoft (R) Incremental Linker Version 8.00.50727.42 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. /out:Hello.exe Hello.obj Hello.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __imp__MessageBoxA@16 referenced in function _WinMain@16 Hello.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cl.exe' : return code '0x2' Stop. ** Second run *** C:\nmake Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 7.00.8882 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1988-2000. All rights reserved. link.exe /INCREMENTAL:NO /NOLOGO -subsystem:windows,5.01 -out:Hello.Exe Hello.Obj kernel32.lib cap.lib ws2_32.lib mswsock.lib advapi32.lib bufferoverflowu.lib user32.lib gdi32.lib comdlg32.lib winspool.lib Steve D.