Hi Mike, In my opinion, go with a simple text editor, even Notepad or EdSharp. It won't get in the way of you concentrating on Java. I recommend TextPad or EdSharp. That way, you will only be frustrated by Java, and not the environment. You will get a good feel for all that is going on behind the scenes. Get the JDK and documentation, download them and install them, and get the Java Access bridge and install that. For learning, I like the Java Tutorial from Sun. Thanks. Jim James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind