RE: Jaws 12 update and VS 2010

  • From: "Rasmussen, Lloyd" <lras@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:54:51 -0400

The following are my opinions, and not those of NLS.

I am a Window-Eyes user, but like to know what else is going on.  I attended a 
Freedom Scientific demo at CSUN where Glen Gordon was putting Visual Studio 
2010 through its paces.  The demonstration was quite impressive.  Look in the 
archives of this list, on March 18, for a message from Jamal about this CSUN 
demonstration.  I think he understood the situation in about the same way I do.

Both W-E and JAWS now support UIA.  JAWS has supported UIA for a longer time.  
There are holes in what information is supplied through UIA by various 
programs, including Visual Studio.  In addition, conventional off-screen model 
techniques don't work in many of the windows that require the use of UIA.  

There may be a new build of JAWS in the next few weeks with additional Visual 
Studio 2010 support, particularly for the full, commercial version of VS.  

I don't think that at this moment any screen reader has the whole Visual Studio 
2010 environment working well, but I suspect that more people are working on 
the FS side of this equation than on the GW side.  It should be encouraging to 
all of us that developer access is getting some attention from both screen 
reader vendors. 

Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
Library of Congress   202-707-0535
http://www.loc.gov/nls
The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the 
Library of Congress, NLS.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:57 PM
To: Rasmussen, Lloyd; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 update and VS 2010

Hi Ken and all.
Oh ok. Well GW Micro's latest version of Window-Eyes, 7.5, supports the UI 
Automation. Visual Studio 2010 heavily uses UI Automation, therefore 
Window-Eyes will take advantage of this.
So what I am saying here is that we are on JAWS 12 and still UI Automation 
doesn't appear to be fully implemented.
Take care.

Chris Hallsworth

On 12/04/2011 5:43 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
> Um it would help if you mentioned what you're talking about so we 
> would know the best method of accessing it if there is one.  
> Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be the support for the design view 
> on that Jaws has on 2008 and 2005 so if you have something better it's not 
> bashing to mention it.
>
> ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris 
> hallsworth
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws 12 update and VS 2010
>
> Hi all.
> Well at least a certain product by a certain company has this support 
> already. Not going to mention names for fear of bashing.
> Take care.
>
>
> Chris Hallsworth
>
> On 12/04/2011 3:15 PM, Gomal Tao wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> A while ago there were some romours about a jaws 12 update that would 
>> support VS 2010. Can anybody give some more info about this matter?
>>
>> /Gabriel
>>
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