hi, there is a java tutorial package that Jamal created, with a number of differing java tutorials in it available at the grab bag: http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com on the "Jamal's documentation page" and he probably already has them available on his site, but I don't have them listed out at the second (make reminder to self!) anyway, HTH, inthane . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and Links to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at: http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at: http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Bishop To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: Java books - any good suggestions on learning Java? Hello, Besides the Thinking in Java book, are there any others that any of you would suggest to learn Java that are available in EBook format? I am needing to get on a very fast track on this it appears. Jeff