Re: Java Deprecated on Mac
- From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:15:30 -0500
Hmm. That sounds like the audible icon approach emacspeak has.
Perhaps another option is to work with oracle on a "play a sound"
option in the dialog that sets the view for the lightbulb.
Alex
On 10/22/10, The Elf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> a quickie note, on the "widgets" that operate the "yellow light bulb that
> pops up..." and the other ones, aren't the assorted widgets both
> discernable as in which one is in operation here, and detectable as in "it
> just ran!" if so might it be possible to build in your own detector for them
> and give a audio response upon there being detected?
>
> as to that yellow light bulb thingy, first thing that came to my mind was
> the cartoon "popping sound of a light bulb appearing above a cartoon
> characters head when they finally "get" something, it was a loud almost
> champagne cork blow out sound without the fizz of the nut juice afterwards.
>
> just some more of my occasional noodlings
> elf
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Java Deprecated on Mac
>
>
>> Kerneels,
>>
>> To answer your questions:
>>
>> 1. Sodbeans uses the NetBeans auto-update mechanism, which is very
>> mature. Once we put the materials live, existing Sodbeans installs
>> will automatically detect new versions are available for download and
>> you can update from the wizard. There are a few quirks with the Oracle
>> system, and sometimes every NetBeans user has to redownload
>> completely, but not for this release.
>>
>> 2. So far as we can tell, it works fine using the latest Oracle/Sun
>> JDK, and also works predominately fine on Mac OS X, as we wrote our
>> own screen reader to bypass Voice Over, which is unfortunately not
>> compatible with NetBeans. It should also work for most internal
>> non-JDK compatible NetBeans code, reading windows that JAWS, NVDA, or
>> other screen readers have no chance of reading correctly.
>>
>> With that said, there are some known issues that, because of the
>> complexity of NetBeans code, we haven't figured out how to solve yet.
>> The most vexing one is how to translate Code completion popups and
>> certain kinds of visual editor hints, like the yellow lightbulbs on
>> the left glyph gutter action, into sound. These systems are run
>> through custom NetBeans widgets, and do not run through the standard
>> listener architectures used in the JDK. I'm hoping to squeeze that
>> into the Sodbeans 2.0 release, which will be next summer if we can
>> figure it out, but it's a tough problem.
>>
>> With that said, we have tons of accessibility enhancements, new
>> language features in Hop (our language), and 100's of bug fixes coming
>> in the next release. It's a huge release, and I'm personally really
>> proud of this one.
>>
>> Stefik
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