Ok, now I understand that you find that way easier because you are using Braille. Well, I don't even know braille, and although it is very easy to learn, it is pretty hard to feel those raised dots, so I don't feel that I have good reasons for learning it.
I made a mistake twice because I named lynx a screen reader, but I have used lynx for the first time in 1995 or 1996.... I don't remember exactly. Now I use it but with Jaws, in a SecureCRT SSH console, and I don't like it at all, because there are very many things I can't do with it, but unfortunately it is the only choice for using a browser in an SSH console.
lynx or links is not a big difference, so for me they are both the same.It seems that you are not suggesting a certain screen reader or browser, but also suggest using another operating system.
Well, I am using Linux, because I am creating programs that run under Linux in production, however, for using the computer as a desktop, Linux is much less developed than Windows. Linux is great in standards, and theoretical ways of doing things, but unfortunately at the final it is much easier to use Windows, because the file system can be accessed easier with Windows Explorer, there are far better screen readers for Windows than for Linux, the screen readers support for browsers is much better, even if you don't care about those extra features offered by them. I also don't need nor like some of the features offered by the Windows screen readers, but they might be important for some users, and I can choose to turn them off if I don't like them.
I can't choose to change very easy an OS, even it would have the best screen reading software, because most of the users and the business partners use Windows, and there will be compatibility issues for sure.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: Re: JFW keymap like orca keymap?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Octavian Rasnita wrote:Its not, you just need to learn to google and find out how things work...I don't care how things work in a less developed screen reader like lynx if what I like to do is harder with it.Lynx is not a screenreader.You have said this twice so it was not a typing error. It goes to show you do no research and seem to know everything about linux when it seems your primary OS is windows...What's your point?My point is that I don't need to press tab or down arrow to jump out that field before starting to type different hotkey letters.How is that a big problem?Yes of course it is. One more key to press, but not this is the big problem. The big problem is that I need to be sure that the focus is on a form field, because if it is, it will type the letter in the field, instead of jumping to the desired page element, and this takes some time also.Well in lynx you would hear "_______________________________________________________" And in firefox your screenreader would probably tell you. Thought about trying a ubuntu live cd?and then you have your hot keys back... Or up... Or if its multy line you press down a few times...?Oh yes... and more time to lose pressing down arrow for who knows how much time.Not really, its actually quite quick for me... Perhaps that is because I use braille...I use speakup on my laptop though and haven't had any issues.I dunno, my web browser doesn't have many hot keys. I mainly jump by screen, link or read by line. I can search for ___ to find fields...Hmm, like I was doing 13 years ago... I hope I won't need to revert back to that oldish and unproductive way of working.I use other methods as well, but its very efficient for me. (with braille) -- Daniel Dalton http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx> __________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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