a theory exists, but as a theory has no implementations and no indication how to implement. More than that it can not give any indication about implementing a voice. Because there evry one uses his search for phoneme algorithm his concatenation algorithm and so on. And you have a lot of choices from the worst where you record any kind of sound in a language keep them in waves file and when you receive a text you parse it and search for sounds, concatenate them and play them. to any better algorithm. I am now researching for creating a romanian voice using formants. But also here I have problems, because I found no software accessible to help me to get out from a sound the frequences or the sine relations so I will have to implement a piece of soft to get out these informations from sound. There is a soft praat but I didn't managed to use it. The guy who work on espeak recomends it, but... See you latter Black Ares ----- Original Message ----- From: Octavian Rasnita To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices? Hmm, it seems that voice synthesis is a pretty new field so all the good companies that make voice sinthesizers made their own research in order to be able to create their programs. So with other words, it is pretty hard to get into this field. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Perry To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: RE: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices? Well don't believe that you can only have one voice active just because that is the only way it has been implemented in Narrirator and in the control panel. I have had multiple active with no problems. Espeak has its problems because well its a free speech program and while I think its great someone is working on one they obviously don't have all the skill behind the project. As to your question to Eloquence it uses its own proprietary interface like RealSpeak. They both have a SAPI 5 interface but when ever you can use a speech engines proprietary interface you will have more control over the speech. For example SAPI 5 really has no true control over the voices pitch. You can set it dynamically but if you want to set and leave it one way you can't really do that. while Realspeak, Cepstral, Neospeak, Lequendo, AT&T, and Eloquence do have ways to set the pitch. I don't know of any books on just speech unless your talking more theory maybe they are out there I just haven't looked. There are rappers out there to make using SAPI easier if you search but it really depends on what you want to do and what your willing to pay. Ken ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:39 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices? Does anyone know what interface is used by Eloquence? It is not SAPI 4 nor 5, and it works better than a SAPI voice. The problem with the SAPI voices is that at a certain moment only a single SAPI5 voice can be active, and in order to change the voice we need to go into Control Panel/Speech, and changing the active voice there doesn't always work. For example, I've tried to use ESpeak sinthesizer, and I couldn't make it active but only by deleting all others voices from the Registry. And this was a problem also because Narrator doesn't work without those MS made voices. Does anyone know some books or tutorials for working with these things under Windows? But of course, not MSDN, because it refers only to ways of creating sinthesizers which are not used by any good company that creates sinthesizers. Information about creating sinthesizers that work under Symbian are also welcome. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: inthaneelf To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices? as an extra idea, you may want to go back to SAPI 4, and research both at MS, and on the web, (added note, if you don't get it on Google, try web crawler, more than once, if I couldn't find it on Google, I found it with a web crawler search) there seems to have been more available for SAPI 4 and it's agents, which might give you clues on how to approach it in SAPI 5. just a thought for you folks, inthane . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and Links to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at: http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at: http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: black ares To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:40 AM Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices? ehe! it is not so easy even you want to make a concatenated voice not a formant one... I am trying now to understand how to make a voice for the language from my country I search for documentation, but it seems that this is a taboo subject because I didn't find nothing how to code speach. ----- Original Message ----- From: alex To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:09 AM Subject: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices? Well I was wondering, Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices? Like something that you speak a number of letters into a microphone then it gets an understanding of your voice and creates a sapi5 engine out of it?