you can learn with such examples and in an IDE, if the book writer goes through and analyzes what is doing what in the code as my VB 5 course book did, it doesn't hurt you to copy and paste code at first if its analyzed and explained. and writing consul applications is a good thing, but for most sighted writers I would think doing the results in a large display GUI environment would make more of an impression.
well, there is a bunch of text manuals for learning to create VB 2008 projects on the "Jamal's documentation page" of my grab bag website, and anything 2005 will translate almost word for word into 2008 so go pull some stuff up and have a ball!
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To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <blindprogramming@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:49 PM Subject: In regards to my giving up on programming? Ken wrote:"You can get up and running much faster on a language like, python, or c and
actually see results. Results is what matters when you start out coding"...I couldn't agree more with that. The IDE is a lazy man's way to begin to program. To me, any text book or college material which gives you a prepackaged formula, claiming to teach you something isn't really doing you any good and shouldn't even be used by the college. As an example, the book I am using is "An Introduction to Programming with C plus plus, by Diane Zak." Thank goodness they used programming, not coding. They only show you the code you need to copy and paste into your IDE, which, in this case, is Visual Studio. I like the way the book introduces new concepts of the C plus plus language to you, but they fail to really get down into the dirt with all of it. For example, they tell you what an algorithm is, and they tell you the various procedures to start writing a program; 1, analyzing a problem, 2, planning an algorithm, 3, desk-checking your algorithm, etc. Basically, it just feels like I'm copying and pasting in a bunch of code, into an IDE so I can pass a course. Furthermore, when we finally have no errors in the code, the .exe opens up in a command prompt. They don't even help us build real genuine Windows apps, it's all console applications. I've always associated C plus plus with genuine Windows gui application development. What's wrong with this picture?
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